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tking13
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Initially Posted - 07/08/2003 : 21:56:16

I am considering replacing the old wire halyards (both the main and jib) on my boat. They are fraying and the wraps around the ends are beat up pretty badly. Anyone have any thoughts on replacing as original or converting to all rope lines?

Problems arise with the split rope and wire version with the ability to raise the main high enough so that the down haul is easy to use. In other words, I can't raise the main as high as I would like because the cable is just above the cleat. The cleat for the down haul is not far below the boom at this point and difficult to secure.

The wire portions could be made smaller but then it would be difficult to secure the lines when the sails are removed.

I read a limited description about internal halyards, but am not sure I like lines running out of slotted holes. Are there other alternatives using all rope lines?

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Tom King
1981 C25 SR/SW #2717

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 07/08/2003 : 22:45:00

#1 you will need to drop the mast. The sheves on the mast head are wider than the wire ones. They can be bought from Catalina direct for around $12. That is the only big deal.They are easy to do. I recomend you make your halyards longer than the wire/rope ones. This will alow you to use them for other things like picking the dinghy out of the water or lifting items when needed. I changed mine and I loved them. Oh and if your concerned about wear you can swap them end for end once a year. This would also be a good time to run all lines aft.

Doug&Ruth
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/09/2003 : 00:03:02

Be aware that the bore on the new sheaves from Catalina direct are 5/16" and the sheave pins on the 'old style' masthead are 3/8".

Take a battery powered drill and a 3/8" bit with you to the marina if you don't know what size your masthead pins are !

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
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77Gypsy
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Response Posted - 07/09/2003 : 00:24:48

i have rope halyards and love them. i just had all new ones installed even for my spinnaker which i use with pretty high winds. never had a problem with them.

Steve
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Heartbeat
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Response Posted - 07/09/2003 : 17:26:59

I agree heartily with Steve. My main and spinnaker halyard are both rope and that is the way to go. Over the winter this year I will be changing my jib halyards to rope.

Any suggestions on the thinnest rope to use? I occasionally change headsails on point to point races and would like to keep the two jib halyards. I was thinking a 1/4" kevlar line should be strong enough. Anyway, I am not sure I have enough space in the sheaves for 5/16" line. Any thoughts?

By the way, be sure to replace all your sheaves when you go away from the wire. The old sheaves will eat up your nice new halyards.

Ted, what is your concern with the internal halyards and slotted holes? I am running all internal halyards with slotted holes and line directors and it works very well. I would recommend it.

-Matt

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tking13
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Response Posted - 07/09/2003 : 20:54:43

My only concern with the internal halyards is wear and tear on the lines where they exit the mast and rub on the slots. No matter how smooth you get the slots, there is bound to be some wear.

How far above deck should the slots be located? Temporarily I may still cleat the lines on the mast but my goal would be to bring the lines aft through a block at the base of the mast, to etc....

What is the easiest, must cost efficient way to make the slots?

Thanks,
Tom King
1981 C25 SR/SW #2717

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 07/09/2003 : 21:12:34

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>My only concern with the internal halyards is wear and tear on the lines where they exit the mast and rub on the slots. No matter how smooth you get the slots, there is bound to be some wear.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

If you are concerned with wear and tear you could install a mast exit plate to protect the line.

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