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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/08/2003 : 22:08:47

My boat, a 1980 SR/FK(hull 2151), has port mounted OB bracket and gas tank shelf in the lazarette.

<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>Don Lucier<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>
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North Star SR/FK

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MattL
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Response Posted - 08/09/2003 : 03:39:34

Hi Larry,
Nice project.

1986 fin keel, std. rig, traditional int. tan colors with white hull, port fuel locker in rear, OB mount to starbord, pulpit mounted lights, battery box on stb side, marine head, folding door between head and main area - no door between head and V berth (I think there was a discussion about this in another thread), jib fairlead tracks do not go all the way back - stop at the drain break in toe rail, main sheet travler not part of rear pulpit.
Keep up the good work.

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
E.C. Rider
Cat 25 86'
FK/SR _/)

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Dave B
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Mali
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Response Posted - 08/09/2003 : 09:43:34

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... main sheet travler not part of rear pulpit.
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You've got a traveler?? I've just got a silly, worthless little PITA. Where did Frank ever come up with that goofy thing? The rest of the hardware is pretty much like you expect on a sailboat, except that. What kind of replacement is allowed in the class rules? (Asks Dave, the non-racer...)

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 08/10/2003 : 13:06:46

Don L. has narrowed the gap -- 111 boats, 9 of which are listed in the Owners Directory of this site (http://www.catalina25-250.org/email25.html), between Don's '80 #2151 Mark I and Derek's '81 #2262 Mark II.

I think the gas tank shelf in the lazarette (made from the liner mold verses the deck mold) remained until '84 or later, even though it became obsolete with the separate gas locker of the Mark II.

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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Dave B
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Mali
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Response Posted - 08/10/2003 : 14:42:31

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I think the gas tank shelf in the lazarette (made from the liner mold verses the deck mold) remained until '84 or later, even though it became obsolete with the separate gas locker of the Mark II.
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FWIW, it's not in #5032 ('85).

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 08/10/2003 : 18:30:58

Dave - install the mods I showed in another post (I'm sure Don L. has the thread...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>) and you will have a useful P.I.T.A.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Derek

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TRFK#2262"This Side Up"

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 08/10/2003 : 21:37:34

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I think the gas tank shelf in the lazarette (made from the liner mold verses the deck mold) remained until '84 or later, even though it became obsolete with the separate gas locker of the Mark II.
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FWIW, it's not in #5032 ('85).

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT
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Nor is it present in #3744 '83

Mark; '83 tall rig, lead fin keel, #3744 Silver Girl

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deastburn
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Response Posted - 08/10/2003 : 21:51:12

"Wood Duck" (#2616) is a fin keel (encapsulated cast iron--may have been fiberglased by a po, of whom there appear to have been four)standard rig, o/b to starboard, sep fuel locker (good thing, too, with the main circuit board in the lazarette!), trad dinette, with a curious anomaly: The "thru hull" in the galley, when I bought her, was marelon, the thru hull under the vee-berth brass. I assume a po changed one of them, but did not convert to true thru-hulls.

Good Luck with your article. It seems Catalina made running changes rather than a major one time upgrade between "Marks".

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tinob
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 08:49:40

Larry,

Calista # 3936-1983 tall rig,alu/framed windows, sealed cockpit gas locker, for'n aft dinette, swing converted to wing, porta potty.

Val on Calista '83 # 3936

Val Bisagni]<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3df11b3127cce94709c5ff2e90000000010" border=0>

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John V.
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 09:35:21

Hi Larry, Nin Bimash II is a 77 swinger standard rig hull #153
it has a dinette interior, port motor mount and port tank shelf.
The oddity of this version is the cabin top is traditional, there is no pop top. With galley, head and holding tank all to port this model tends to list slightly to port. to compensate I have 6 25lb bags of lead shot in the starboard saloon locker.

John V. Nin Bimash II
77 C25 sk/sr #153

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kurt
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 11:11:14

Snowfish is a 1986 fin keel, std. rig, traditional int. white hull, port fuel locker in rear, inboard diesel 10 hp universal m-12, pulpit mounted lights, duel battery box on stb side, marine head, holding tank folding door between head and main, jib fairlead tracks do not go all the way back - stop at the drain break in toe rail, main sheet travler not part of rear pulpit.

Kurt
1986 hull#5275

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 11:46:01

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I think the gas tank shelf in the lazarette (made from the liner mold verses the deck mold) remained until '84 or later, even though it became obsolete with the separate gas locker of the Mark II.
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FWIW, it's not in #5032 ('85).

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT
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Nor is it present in #3744 '83

Mark; '83 tall rig, lead fin keel, #3744 Silver Girl

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That's interesting, because #4849 ('85) has the cockpit fuel locker AND the gas tank shelf in the lazerette.

J.B. Manley, Antares '85 FK/SR #4849
Grand Lake O' The Cherokees, NE Oklahoma

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 15:04:11

Larry,
You know that the hard work you are doing for this article update is spoiling us.
I have been dreaming of a boat for retirement, andhave been thinking of a 36. I wrote the folks at the C36 association to see if they had a similar article for their boats, and they do not. they do however have the brochures for the various models on their website, but your article is the best yet.
Keep up the good work. You are setting the standard

Frank Gloss
89WK/TR

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Thunderheart
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 20:58:42

I have to second what Frank said above. I'm not even an owner (yet) and I can't say enough about this website and all the owner support I've found here. Larry's articles are awesome and I certainly want to thank him. This thread has been particularly interesting and informative and really look forward to seeing the new posts here each time I log on.

Dallas P.

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 21:27:00

Thunder... You've found a great place! Time to find the boat that goes with it and GO SAILING! <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 23:17:28

Yeah Thunder.
Get yourself a 25 and join us.
when I was shopping for a 22 two years ago in Atlanta a guy on the dock in his 25 told me to just go ahead and get a 25. At the time I thought that it was too much boat for me. And it probably was. I learned a lot from my 22, and the Catalina 22 discussion group, sponsored by Lowell and the folks at Catalina Direct. I bought a 22, and shortly therafter my 25. If I didn't have the 22, and the experience gained, I probably wouldn't appreciate my 25 as much as I do now.
I'll tell you one thing, I think that whatever size Catalina you buy, you are going to be with a good group, and get lots of support.

Frank Gloss
89WK/TR

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Rob Wells
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Response Posted - 08/12/2003 : 00:42:49

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Mark III: 1986-1987. Distinguishing Features: Flush mount Lexan cabin windows, new style stern pulpit with integrated main sheet traveller.

"Saba Spice" is a 1987 Wing Keel but does not have the new style stern pulpit with integrated traveller. Hull number is 5606.

Rob Wells
"Saba Spice"
C25 #5606 WK

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 08/13/2003 : 15:37:11

Former owner reporting in:

Hull #2459, FK, SR. Traditional interior, no lav in head area, 1981 model, but it had the separate gas tank locker on the portside, engine mounted on starboard side. This gas locker is different than Larry's initial post where he notes that the separate gas locker was in 1982. I liked this feature very much because our old 1981 C22 had the tank inside, and guess what happened to us one day!

Sold our boat in 1998. It's still in Alamdea, CA, new owner's name is Tim, don't know if he's joined.

In 1987-8, there was another C25 just behind us - he had an inboard engine (maybe a Mercedes) diesel installed by his PO and his name was Larry and I believe he moved to Benecia, CA or maybe all the way to Sacramento.

Also, going back to Larry's initial post on this thread, it is my understanding that the interiors weren't specific to the "Marks", other than that the "L" shaped dinette (which I thought was "way cool" and only saw one on a C25 on Clear Lake earlier hull number late 1000s, maybe early 2000s) was eliminated in the early days, maybe as late as 1980. My 1981 brochure shows only the two seater dinette and the traditional interiors as options, and the order form only shows those two options.

Stu

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 08/13/2003 : 19:45:28

Good to hear from you again, Stu, and hope you're loving your 34' palace! I would only add that, from everything I've seen, the dinette went away some time around the "Mk III", which appears to have come only with the traditional interior. But Larry will certainly clarify that when his work is done.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 08/14/2003 : 21:13:55

Dave and folks,

Thanks, I've been lurking and sometime popping in, and always enjoy this group: fun, witty, lighthearted, not too serious, and always willing to help. Seems that certain boat "classes" are like that, while some, somewhat perhaps inherently, are "snooty yachtspersons." Don't quote me.

I enjoy the way you always help each other out without ranting, (although sometimes it is called for!, with dry wit).

Our C34 groups is like "us" and we have a lot of fun. Drop by sometime, just for info (www.c34.org; message board). Just for fun stuff about electrical and boat systems that we all share.

And it's not a "palace." No harem involved. Anyway, while I was waxing the hull the other day, I though "Hmmm, sure glad I don't have a 40!"

Then, "Aha, the 25 was shorter!!!!"

More anytime, keep up the good work.

Stu

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Geoff A
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Response Posted - 08/15/2003 : 10:38:16

I have an 81 fk/sr hull number 2587. I also have motor on starboard, traditional layout and no sink in head area (no signs of ever having one). My gas tank is in its own locker.

Geoff, Las Vegas, NV

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mdh347
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Response Posted - 08/15/2003 : 11:21:51

I have an '81 sk/tr #2374, consistent with all posts to now, except that it has a sink in the head area (has porta-potty of recent vintage; assume head before that).

Mort Hoffman

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Charlie Vick
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Response Posted - 08/15/2003 : 17:55:58

Panacea II #2439 is a '81 SKSR with port side fuel locker, starboard
motor mount, standard interior, no head sink, aluminum windows and cast iron sk. I'll get the sn this weekend.

PanaceaII '81 C25 #2439 SRSK
CVick
Fort Smith, AR

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wa4htz
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Response Posted - 08/17/2003 : 17:22:24

Larry, first of all, thanks for all your hard work on summarizing the info on our C-25s. "Bolero" is a 1984 TR/SK, hull #4357, with a traditional interior. She has the cockpit gas tank locker but still has the old gas tank shelf in the port cockpit locker. About the only thing which will fit in the resulting space is mildew! She also has aluminum window frames with non-opening ports in the head and was built with a porta-potty. She does have a sink in the head and used to have the ugly folding doors both between the main cabin and the head and the head and the v-berth. Motor mount on the starboard side with swim ladder to port. Battery in the "tublike" dual battery box under the aft end of the starboard setee. Water tank is under the forward part of the starboard setee. Guess what, she lists to starboard! She is a pop top model and has the running lights mounted on the pulpits.
I hope this helps to add to your info.

Ken
"Bolero" - TR/SK #4357

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 12/08/2003 : 17:10:56

Larry, interestingly enough, my '83 # 3744 doesn't have a vestigial gas tank shelf in the lazzarette locker, rather it has a serviceable small shelf (a molded part of the hull liner) about 6" or so, deep which is segregated from the locker by a 6" high masonite fiddle making it a great place to store cleaning supplies and such. The remainder of the locker is wide open and available to store bulk items.

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