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TomA
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Initially Posted - 07/19/2003 : 16:22:43

Does anyone have any advice about installing the Origo 3000 without using gimbals? The tray from the Princess is slightly larger than the new stove. I can't seem to find a location that will permit me to open the stove and remove the burners for refilling. I thought about drilling straight down into the drawer and inserting two bolts with wing nuts from below.

If I bolt the stove in a position that will permit me to open it, I can then undo the wingnuts from below and press up on the bolts to slide the stove enough to remove the burners for refilling.

Does this make sense? Are there any better ideas?

Thanks!

Tom

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 07/19/2003 : 16:39:51

I don't follow... I removed the Pricess box and fixed-mounted our 3000 with a couple of pan-head screws from the top (under the burners) into the fiberglass shelf, positioned toward the front. In that position (with some space behind it), the top opens easily to remove the burners for filling. To remove the stove, I open the top, remove the burners, and unscrew the two screws.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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TomA
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Response Posted - 07/19/2003 : 18:06:46

Good idea, Dave. I was planning to remove the old stove but leave the steel box that lines the stove area. It sounds like removing the box (liner) will provide enough room to open the latch and raise the top enough to remove the burners.

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Tom

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Response Posted - 07/19/2003 : 20:20:51

Tom,

Our boat came with a Origo 3000. It is not firmly attached, but is secured by small teak strips around the base to keep it from sliding around on the fiberglass shelf. To fill the stove, we simply lift it up about 1/2" an inch to clear the strips, and can remove the whole thing for filling, cleaning, etc.

-don

Don & Freda Jones
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Dave B
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Response Posted - 07/20/2003 : 15:20:28

Tom and Don... I just want to caution about having a mount that you can count on to keep the stove from falling off the shelf in case you have it going when a wake catches you broadsides. As safe as unpressurized alcohol is, it becomes very dangerous when it's burning on the cabin sole (and you may not even be able to see the flames). I recommend Origo's pot-holders, too--but get WM or whoever to match Defender's price on them.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Response Posted - 07/20/2003 : 15:42:09

That sounds like a good suggestion Dave. We have only used the stove once, while docked. I don't think I'd ever try to use the existing setup while underway.

Thanks, -don

Don & Freda Jones
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Response Posted - 07/20/2003 : 19:59:25

Don: Under way is not necessarily the only issue... On a mooring or at anchor, a stinkpot could pass bow up in an otherwise quite anchorage, creating a wake that could suddently rock-and-roll you at the least convenient time. We've never cooked under way and don't plan to--I'd install gimbals if I thought we would.

In any case, enjoy the Origo--it's a great solution.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Response Posted - 07/20/2003 : 23:30:48

"Wood Duck" acquired her Origo 3000 three seasons ago, right after I singed my eyebrows lighting the old Princess (I called it "the Firestarter" after the movie of the same name). I kept the ss box from the Princess, bent aluminum plates and drilled three holes in each (photo to follow tomorrow), two holes in the bottom flange to attach to the Origo (which is pre-drilled for this). The flange bends out about a quarter inch and the rest of the plate is a triangle, culminating in a hole at the top center about a quarter inch in dia. Through the hole is a 3/8" bolt with a threaded flange washer on the outside. The washer engages the pre-existing receivers for the old Princess gimbal system. The Origo now is gimbaled at one tenth the price of the factory system, and fits the existing ss box.

Next, to make some pot holders for the Origo stove.

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 07/21/2003 : 13:34:14

Hi Tom,

Contrary to some of the answers already, I'd advise you to consider installing the new Origo with gimbals. On many occasions I've ducked below on a cool spring or fall day to brew up a hot mug 'o coffee or hot chocolate while underway. Mmmmmmmmmm. Not to mention one January day when I had a film crew out with me to do a photo shoot on bald eagles. After about 2.5 hours of filming, I went below and made a big pot of clam chowder for everyone to enjoy. How great that chowder tasted was the topic of conversation for the next hour and a half while we sailed back to the marina.

If your stove has gimbals, you'll expand the possibilities.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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Response Posted - 07/21/2003 : 14:14:23

Thanks, everybody for your advice.

Dave, I understand what you are saying about wakes at anchor. Since your system is fix-mounted, have you had difficulties cooking when several of these monsters rolled through your anchorage? Since you're not sailing at the time, I assume you are able to steady your pots and pans until the rock and roll stops. In your experience, do you think gimbals would help at anchor?

Tom

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Response Posted - 07/21/2003 : 15:03:40

Tom: We don't do a lot of any of those things, but we have one pair of pot-holders (heavy bent wires with clamps that fit on the front rail of the stove) to hold a pot or pan steady. We don't cook with lots of liquids except for water in a covered SS teapot. Bill's suggestion and Dave Eastburn's solution are good ones, but I let the new owner of the curtain-burner have the gimbal box.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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