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MarkTM
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Initially Posted - 12/26/2001 : 11:55:16

A number of discussions have begun regarding the health of the Catalina 25/250 National Association. One of our association officers, Bill Holcomb, wrote to give us a quick update on the status of the association and he made an urgent call for volunteers

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John G-
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Response Posted - 12/26/2001 : 13:16:45

Mark – Good post. I’ve seen this Assoc. move from a “members only” to an open and inviting organization and I think it is “healthier” now than it was in the past.
Your comments about the charter being more oriented

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 12/27/2001 : 14:14:17

This discussion has raised important issues, but we need to be careful that, in our frustration, we do not make ill-conceived, wholesale changes that destroy the fundamental value of the Association.

It has been suggested that we scrap the Association

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 12/27/2001 : 14:37:06

Steve - that is an excellent assessment (although I think your last sentence should be in capital letters!).
I would love to have the Nationals held locally on Canyon Lake (30 miles north of San Antonio) - but when I polled all the Texas yacht clubs abou

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/27/2001 : 14:46:23

Great posts both Steve and Mark.

Steve you make a great point that the organization is for sailing, cruising and racing. I think there was an effort this year that some members went cruising after the race weekend up to the Northern portion of Michiga

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 12/27/2001 : 17:15:39

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I am going to do a little arm twist here online. If you look at the members list, some of the guys offering opinions on this board the most

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c25sailor
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Response Posted - 12/27/2001 : 21:27:28

Many good points being made here. We can, with the participation of not only Officers but also by the efforts of other members, keep a really great association of C25/C250 owners going.

I see us in a bit of a transition here. There are a number of task

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 12/27/2001 : 21:42:09

Yup, I do use the board a lot....often to learn, not just to share my experience. I want to help, but I am not so big on commitments that I think I can't fulfill. I teach college theatre and there are two months in the fall and two in the spring when I

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 12/28/2001 : 12:17:55

Buzz, who said you have to know how to sail to be an officer? My first office in the national association was Chief Measurer, and I didn't have a clue as to what I was supposed to measure, or how I was supposed to measure it. The important qualification i

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 12/28/2001 : 19:06:59

Steve: Theatre students do far weirder things than THAT these days, but not at my school. I am at a very small, very conservative private college, affiliated with the Church of God (of which I am NOT a member). My school only offers a drama minor, so "

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 12/28/2001 : 21:58:28

Steve - that is what I did when the Nationals were on Great Salt Lake. Vern Marion asked me to helm his boat and we managed 5 1sts and a 2nd and won the SR Fleet.
I had an absolute blast...
Derek

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 12/29/2001 : 11:41:03

Gary, you said, "I guess it really couldn't be a national regatta if there was one on the east coast and one on the west coast." When the national regatta is held on the east coast, that doesn't mean that west coast sailors are not allowed to participate.

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rclift
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Response Posted - 12/29/2001 : 12:37:30

Lets say in a good year you get 10 boats to a nationals regatta. That would mean that about .16% of the eligible boats are participating. No doubt that racing improves the skills of those who are participating and promotes interest in our boats but I thin

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 12/29/2001 : 13:35:05

Steve - I'll consider myself hired! My fee is one beer...
(I notice we have the same vintage C25 - mine is #2262)
Derek TRFK

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 12/30/2001 : 00:29:53

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Lets say in a good year you get 10 boats to a nationals regatta. That would mean that about .16% of the eligible boats are participating. No

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Gary B.
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 12/30/2001 : 12:43:21

Ray:

For the very reasons you indicated, I agree that the cost of the national regatta shouldn’t fall upon the members of the national association. I haven’t seen the budget of the national association since 1985, when I was Commodore, but in that yea

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 12/30/2001 : 20:34:14

Your description sounds about the way the nationals have been handled recently. For the past three years that I know of...it has been piggy backed upon other events which works well.

There is of course some problem within the litigant society we now l

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 12/31/2001 : 02:31:13

I suggest we have regional racing and cruising events...west coast, east coast, and middle America....each year sponsored by more than one fleet in each area. National events always seem to catch me when I cannot

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MarkTM
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Response Posted - 12/31/2001 : 11:43:44

I, too, like the idea of regional events. But, we need individuals who are willing to step up to the plate (so to speak) and organize these events. While the national assn may be able to assist in promotion, it cannot be expected to do much more. This

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rclift
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Response Posted - 12/31/2001 : 15:34:19

Thanks Mark, you did a better job of making my point then I did. On a regional basis there has been some success getting c-25 and c-250 owners to events. It also seems that the majority of owners want to cruise rather then race so events that combine a c

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