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ClamBeach
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Initially Posted - 08/09/2003 : 20:15:09

http://www.latitude38.com/LectronicLat/2003/0803/Aug08/Aug8.html#anchor1085433

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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Response Posted - 08/10/2003 : 17:00:25

Wow! I hate to see something like that happen to people, but thankfully no one was hurt. The article didn't elaborate on how long it took them to try and lift sail, but it brings to mind something I was taught in sailing school: Never leave the dock with your mainsail cover on and always have your halyards attached. Some times we depend too much on the iron jenny. Don't know if that was the case with those guys.

John Matsche 1985 TR/FK #5171

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 08/10/2003 : 20:09:51

Hi Yaw'l,

Don't ya hate it when someons says that Catalinas are crappy built boats.

I love it. That old cat 27 hit the rocks and floated off. Frank Butler ought to use that photo for an ad. Pacific Seacraft does!!!

I hit a submerged rock going about 5-6 knots in my old 81 cat 27 and it didn't hurt her a bit. The impact about through me to the cockpit floor. Later that winter, I foud the rock when the Corp. of engineers drained the lake. The rock, about 5 feet in diameter, had a blue scuff on it from the paint on the keel. <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

Go Frank...keep up the good work brother.

PW

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 00:05:44

"was taught in sailing school: Never leave the dock with your mainsail cover on and always have your halyards attached."

"and keep the anchor handy... "

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 13:57:25

Hi all,

How about a third form of propulsion? Don't laugh.

Since we determined paired oars were impractical, my buddy Paul and I made yulohs, the single asian sculling oars for our '25's.

In July, while motoring up the final turn in the marina to my slip, my engine quit. Trying to start it I saw the wires smoke. Gave it up. Since the wind was going directly against us down the middle of the lane between the docks, and Hey Jude's freeboard had already turned her that way, I had Kirsten steer with what way the wind gave us.

I was able to assemble and deploy the yuloh in the 50 yards we traveled, scull enough speed to turn 180 degrees, go back upwind, and get right into the slip without event. Good thing I had practiced leaving and returning to the slip singlehanded with the yuloh a dozen times in february when we had no wind.

Now I don't know what the conditions were, wind and current wise for the folks on the C27, but the yuloh gives me 2kts+ without huffing and puffing, enough to steer and perhaps delay the time to disaster.

I figgered if the engine failed outside the marina sometime, I could always tack into the entrance, no matter what the conditions. Getting into the slip was the challenge. So, we made the yulohs. In just this one incident, my effort was repaid.

Jim Williams
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 14:23:18

<font color=blue>Since we determined paired oars were impractical, my buddy Paul and I made yulohs, the single asian sculling oars for our '25's. - Jim Williams
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Hi Jim,

I remember a thread about making a yuloh several months ago, and I thought it was a pretty cool idea. Do you have a photo of the one you made? 'Any tips on how to make one, or heads up on potential pitfalls? Where do you store it? How do you use it on your C-25? Did you have to install some sort of oar lock?

Thanks for the help!

Buzz Maring
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~~Freya~~
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 14:45:41

I can't imagine a boat being built stronger than my 89 wing. The liner is over 1/4" thick. When I drilled some holes in the transom for my new motor mount I couldn't believe how thick it was. The cabin top is really thick too.
I wonder how our hull thicknesses compare with the Catalina 36's

Frank Gloss
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 17:30:29

Speaking of tough boats - read the thread on the C25 forum about the 25 that rolled on it's trailer on the freeway at 60 mph. There are pictures.

A C25 hit a concrete freeway at 60 mph, rolled over and survived without catastrophic damage (although totalled by the insurance company). What amazes me is that the hull is intact (cracked) and the keel is still attached (although bent).

I would expect the hull to be shattered where it hit, the hull/deck to be split apart all along the side, and the keel to be torn off. Now I am sure the trailer took some of the strain, but that's a tough boat. I think it would still float (although probably leak). Hitting a freeway at 60 tells me the boat could take quite a pounding on rocks, piers or pylons.

<img src="http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/pictures/icon.jpg" border=0>Indiscipline 1978 FK #398

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matsche
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 21:57:45

I also remember a thread on yulohs and sculling several months ago. Was interested, but got sidetracked by things like mainsails and topping lifts. 2 knots? Not bad for manuvering to the slip. Could a carpentry challenged person (like myself) build one of these?

Founds some pictures on the net: http://www.simplicityboats.com/yulohpage.html

John Matsche 1985 TR/FK #5171

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