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John Mason
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Initially Posted - 01/02/2002 :  14:40:45  Show Profile
I'm looking at replacing the topping lift (wire shackled to the backstay pin at the masthead) with a halyard-like line run inside the mast and back to the cockpit. I was looking at 1/8" or 3/16" Spectron 12, but in researching it found that it is quite sl
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Ironlegs
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Response Posted - 01/02/2002 :  14:52:51  Show Profile
What I did to replace the "snotter" on my backstay was to use the jib halyard with the rope section switched so it attaches to the end of the wire that would normally shackle to the jib head so the pull is from the forward side of the masthead instead of
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John G-
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Response Posted - 01/02/2002 :  15:21:08  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
<font face='Comic Sans MS'><font size=2> John – I ran a ¼” line from the back of the boom up to a block at the top of the mast and down to my organizers and clutches (See[url="http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/tt008.htm"] Tech Tip on clutches[/url]).
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 01/05/2002 :  12:24:42  Show Profile
John - I am thoroughly confused here! Why would you want to go to all that trouble for a control line that is rarely used? (Mine gets adjusted only in drifter conditions to stop the weight of the boom from flattening the main). I have a 3/16" line from th
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John G-
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Response Posted - 01/05/2002 :  19:35:27  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
<font face='Comic Sans MS'><font size=2>Derek – I did it for reefing on the run.
Peregrine already had [url="http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/tt008.htm"] three clutches per side [/url]and a cabin top winch on the port side, so the cost was one blo
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 01/05/2002 :  23:24:01  Show Profile
John G - now I'm even more confused!! When I reef the main I drop the halyard, haul on the reefing line and cleat it down, re-tighten the halyard (takes about 20 - 25 secs). At no time do we adjust the topping lift. Am I missing something?
Derek
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John G-
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Response Posted - 01/06/2002 :  00:22:56  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
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John - I am thoroughly confused here! ....I have a 3/16" line from the shackle at the back of the masthead running to a becket block about 2'
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 01/06/2002 :  11:28:49  Show Profile
Thx John G - now I understand! (Incidentally, I'm only 5' 6" tall and have to stand on a seat to reach that silly pigtail,so I gave up using it, and just use a tight topping lift and boom vang to stop the boom swinging when in the slip).
(I had a friend
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John Mason
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Response Posted - 01/07/2002 :  17:10:25  Show Profile
Derek, I thought the topping lift would be so rarely used last season (first season with the boat) that I left it off when I raised the mast. Then I ended up reefing so often, I realized it had some importance. Most of the time I was reefing, the boom was
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 01/07/2002 :  18:36:33  Show Profile
John - I don't think we adjust the topping lift when we reef - the weight of the boom keeps the mainsail flatter and helps depower the boat. We don't head to wind - just keep trucking and the crew eases the halyard to a marked position while the other cre
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jwilliams
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Response Posted - 01/07/2002 :  22:41:07  Show Profile
Derek,

In a recent magazine I saw another use for a topping lift. Maybe you saw it too. The article was about going aground.

In the photo of what looked to be a 40footer, aground, about 10 crew were sitting astraddle the boom. The boom was hiked
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 01/08/2002 :  01:11:32  Show Profile
I guess that my 3/16" line wouldn't be good for that either! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Douglas
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Response Posted - 01/08/2002 :  01:41:12  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
With the sail down they might have been using the main halyard.
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