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jfesi
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Response Posted - 10/27/2003 : 12:34:39

Jim,

I like your cockpit table. It appears to take up less room than the teak Edson models. Do you recall where you purchased it? I might want to get one myself.

Alan T.
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jmorrical
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Response Posted - 10/28/2003 : 01:28:21

Alan T.,

I bought the table three years ago from BoatU.S. for $99.99, but it is $129 now. I might have purchased it on sale. I can measure mine if that will confirm it for you.

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Response Posted - 10/28/2003 : 19:55:57

Alan,

The measurements on my table are the same as shown on the table at BoatU.S.- -13 1/2" X 22". My pedestal guard is 1" tubing with 9 1/2" on center or 10 1/2" OD as shown on the link.

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Response Posted - 12/01/2003 : 21:55:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jmorrical
 Here are the pictures of the bimini with the fly installed on my Catilina 250 WK. I haven't yet figured out the best way to rig it . The pictures show an extendable pole at the leading edge that helps with the form. I was thinking of PVC poles between gromets for extra rigidity or adding a gromet at the center somewhere to attach forward to the mast providing extra head room below. I am 6'1" and I can stand at the wheel to steer.
I hope the photos help with your ideas for improving the utility of your boat.

Jim Morrical
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Jim,
I am getting ready to order a bimini like yours from the Canvas Store. Can you still sit comfortably in the stern rail seats? Could you please tell me the correct diminsions for the backstay shrouds? Also, did the fly come from the Canvas Store also? If so how did you order it?
Thanks for your help.

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Response Posted - 12/02/2003 : 02:14:18

Joe,

The fly was from a local Houston area shop. The leading edge of the bimini has a built in zipper for the fly upgrade that you can add later . I am 6'1" and sit in the rail seats with confortable headroom. I can measure for you, but you should ask about how to measure your own boat. A more accurate method might be to have them send the frame work to you for fixing the backstay position accurately on your rig. Maybe they wouldn't do that????

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Response Posted - 12/02/2003 : 19:26:41

Jim,
Thanks for the information. Is the built in zipper standard from the Canvas Store?

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Response Posted - 12/03/2003 : 10:36:18

Joe,

Canvas Store uses many zippers in the construction of the bimini. It allows for easy takedown. The leading edge zipper is, I think, standard. They talk about their design allowing for easy connection to a fly or dodger.

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Response Posted - 12/03/2003 : 22:49:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jmorrical
 
I am defending my excessive cup holder arrangement with the following points.
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Jim,

You forgot reason #6..

To help keep the boat in balance, while heeling, you and your crews drinks must be on the "high" side of a heeling boat.

I know I read that somewhere.

I like the top

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Response Posted - 12/19/2003 : 12:44:37

Hi - the 250 I'm considering buying lists a cockpit cover among its extras, but the piece itself is still at the owner's place and I've not been able to find any pictures of a 250 with the cover in use. I understand this isn't the same as a bimini (which sounds worth the investment and I appreciate the fine photos on this thread) and I think it's a piece of gear that can't be used while underway; but if anyone could clear this up for me I'd be grateful. Reuben.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 12/19/2003 : 14:12:17

Reubin,

The cover referred to may be the all weather pop top enclosure or possibly the companionway hatch cover. The all weather pop top enclosure is a great item though a bit dorky looking, and who cares what people will think when its raining outside and the cover provides some standing room within to cook at the galley or just stretch out. It has screened sides windows with clear acetone roll up windows.

The comanionway cover pops onto the same snaps used by the all weather cover but is used when the pop top is down and the boat is not used. It prevents water from dripping inside the boat and keeps airborne trash out of the companionway hatch gutters. It also is a great if not must add on item.

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Response Posted - 12/19/2003 : 15:04:49

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The comanionway cover pops onto the same snaps used by the all weather cover but is used when the pop top is down and the boat is not used. It prevents water from dripping inside the boat and keeps airborne trash out of the companionway hatch gutters. It also is a great if not must add on item.
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Arlyn,

Does anyone sell the companionway cover that you mention, or does everyone just make their own? I had bought a real nice one for my Hunter 19, but have not found one for my C250 yet.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 12/19/2003 : 19:00:27

I made mine...but if the snaps are installed to a fixed pattern, I would think it could be ordered from Catallina a lot simpler than making it.

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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 12/19/2003 : 23:58:48

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by jfesi
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">
The comanionway cover pops onto the same snaps used by the all weather cover but is used when the pop top is down and the boat is not used. It prevents water from dripping inside the boat and keeps airborne trash out of the companionway hatch gutters. It also is a great if not must add on item.
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Arlyn,

Does anyone sell the companionway cover that you mention, or does everyone just make their own? I had bought a real nice one for my Hunter 19, but have not found one for my C250 yet.
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On my 2000wk the companionway cover was part of the optional canvas package. The package included main sail cover, wheel steering cover, 2 winch covers and the companionway cover all made out of matching canvas.

I’m sure the dealer here in Colorado can get these items so I assume your local dealer should be able as well.

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Response Posted - 12/20/2003 : 07:35:02

I should have clarified above... I made mine prior to being available from Catalina... If it needed replacing, I'd buy from Catalina. They were not available until well after hull 224.

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bear
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Response Posted - 12/20/2003 : 08:10:20

The above mentioned companionway cover, is anyone aware if it can be bought direct from Catalina or does a dealer need to be involved? Also, if available for purchase by individuals what is the "E" mail address or phone number for the Catalina department that would handle
additional add on kits etc. "THANX" in advance "Bear" on the hard.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 12/20/2003 : 08:44:14

The cocpit cover referred to by Reuben could be a simple square over the boom. (Mine's Home Depot, but I got the heavy silver one.....kind of a NASA look

)

The companion way cover being discussed is giving me an idea. Lady Kay came with one, but it only covers the Lexan part of the hatch. It snaps onto snaps on the aft end of the hinged part of the pop top. Indeed, that solves the leaking around the aft edge of sliding part, but doesn't keep schmutz from entering the gutters around the top itself.
A cover which would go around the forward edge of the top, utilizing the snaps that are there would indeed keep the whole thing covered and clean......where's that canvas store catalogue, get out the sowing machine.....

Oscar

Lady Kay 250 WB #618

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 12/20/2003 : 08:47:21

OK, the thread just went super=wide with my post....

WhadiddIdo?

Oscar

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Dkn420
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Response Posted - 12/20/2003 : 09:54:01

Bear: You might start here if you want to go to Catalina direct: Kent Nelson (Catalina)
E-mail Address(es):
Kent@Catalinayachts.com

Kent has been pretty responsive to questions and seems to get an answer for you or get you going in the right direction....

Dan #727

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 12/20/2003 : 10:58:50

Oscar... I'm surprized. The purpose of the cover was to keep all water and airborne debri out of the hatch and rain gutter... to shorten it up I can see would help but the full virtues of the cover are compromised.

To go to the trouble and expense of a hatch cover and not do the full job is close to stupid.

btw... there is an interesting story behind mine. When I got ready to sew it... it didn't take long to strip the gears out of the wife's sewing machine. Those gears are cheap plastic things. When trying to buy gears, the owner of the shop told me to bring in the machine and he would replace them for $75. Well, the gears were only $25 and heck, it hadn't been any great shake to take them out.

I kindly suggested I would put them in, he sold me the gears and said "Good Luck" in that same way I've heard on a few other occassions. What I didn't know was that timing those gears was about like working a rubics cube.

My pride was at stake and I knew this guy was waiting for me to bring that sucker in and plop down the other $50 bucks. I had an ace in the hole however, a nephew in Michigan works part time for a sewing machine place and does this all the time. He sent me directions. The only problem is that he speaks sewing machine ease and I speak english poorly... Well, two telephone walk thrus later... this thing is actually sewing a thread again.

I didn't attack the cover with it again... up in the barn was my first wife's old Sears machine... with real gears inside.

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Response Posted - 12/20/2003 : 11:01:42

The thread went wide with Jim's post of a long link above... your innocent... this time

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 12/21/2003 : 21:39:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">To go to the trouble and expense of a hatch cover and not do the full job is close to stupid. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

You said it, not me. As well designed as these boats are, the screw-ups by Catalina that could have been avoided for the same money, or less sans warrantee claims, are still a mystery to me.

Oscar

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Response Posted - 12/30/2003 : 15:43:25

I received an "E" mail from Kent Nelson at Catalina regarding the sliding window and hatch cover for the C 250, also pictures of same. The cover does not cover the sea hood but does fasten to the upper, back part of it with snaps and then follows the pattern for the pop top enclosure. Price from Catalina is $91.78 and the P/N is 15568. I would post the pictures but not quite sure where to send the post. Does any one have the Catalina version on there C250? Would appreciate any comments for or against. "Bear" C250 WB

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Dkn420
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Response Posted - 12/30/2003 : 18:07:56

Bear: My canvas package came with a companion way cover, same color and material as the sail cover and other covers for the boat. It snaps at the front of the hatch that raises, and then down the sides and covers the companion way hatch and there are two snaps at the bottom so the entire companion way is covered, I haven't put up the Pop Top yet but I assume it uses the same snaps...we have had quite a bit of rain in Nor Cal this winter and I haven't experienced any leaks around the canvas companion way cover...water will sit in it where there is enough rain, but removing it from one side let's the water run off over the side of the boat...hope that helps, Dan #727

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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 12/30/2003 : 20:50:45

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bear
 I received an "E" mail from Kent Nelson at Catalina regarding the sliding window and hatch cover for the C 250, also pictures of same. The cover does not cover the sea hood but does fasten to the upper, back part of it with snaps and then follows the pattern for the pop top enclosure. Price from Catalina is $91.78 and the P/N is 15568. I would post the pictures but not quite sure where to send the post. Does any one have the Catalina version on there C250? Would appreciate any comments for or against. "Bear" C250 WB
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These are the only pictures I have of the cover, it is covered in snow but I think you get the idea. I haven't had any leaks with this cover on. The companionway does leak without it. My companionway faces north while the boat is at its dock. Two summers ago we had a storm blow in, it dropped 2" of rain in 20 minutes and the wind was blowing out of the north 45 to 50 mph with gusts to 65. I had 2 towels one in between the hatch board and the slide another in front of the slide The towels would be soaked in 5 minute I would pull the wet one out and put in a dry one, before my wife could ring out the soaked towel the one I just put in was soaked. I even had a nylon boom tent up until the wind ripped 5 of the 8 grommets out. (Kind of glad the boom tent ripped away we were moving and healing about 15 degrees in the big gusts. Once the tent ripped away the ride was a bit calmer.)

Had another storm later that year not near as bad as the 1st one but this time I put the companion way cover on (which by the way is not that hard to do from inside the boat) we did not even get a drop inside the boat. Now I always put the cover on if it starts to rain from the north.

I don’t know if it would have kept all the rain out in that first storm but I’m sure it would have helped.

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Response Posted - 12/30/2003 : 21:12:15

Bryan: Glad you had the photos as I was wrong about the attachment point on the cover, mine is exactly as shown in your photos...Dan #727

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