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Doug
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Initially Posted - 09/24/2003 :  00:41:46  Show Profile
Interesting picture:
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/24/2003 :  10:43:53  Show Profile
We were looking at something a lot like that when we were taking our "brand new" C-25 home, 100 miles down Long Island Sound a couple of years ago. We had just heard about it on NOAA... We ran like hell into the Connecticut River, picked up a mooring, and about 2 minutes later, it hit... OH MY GOD... If we'd been out on the Sound, and lived through it, the boat might have been left in the nearest harbor with a For Sale sign on it!

Thanks for the memory, Doug!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 09/24/2003 :  13:17:15  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
That looks a lot like a wall cloud. We were on our year long cruise in Port Washington, Wisconsin. A similar cloud was approaching, except it was black. It was very frightening. My wife asked me "When does it get dangerous?" "When it is rotating", I answered. "You mean, like that?" she said, pointing up. "Yes!!!!" We were safely tied up in the marina when a gust of wind about 70 knots hit. Lake Michigan was instantly turned to white. We watched about 6 waterspouts get formed and then blown away south at high speed. All the sailboats in the marina were knocked down in their slips. Everyone in a boat ran to the marina club (where we were). Those in the club ran to their boats. By the time I got to ours, the worst was over. We left on our 65 mile crossing of Lake Michigan at first light the next morning.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 09/24/2003 :  18:38:04  Show Profile
I wonder if that is a legit pic. Wouldn't the sea around the tanker be far more disturbed than appears in the photo? Wouldn't the skipper have already taken an evasive manoever? Being fortunate enough never to have encountered anything like that I have to wonder.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/24/2003 :  19:04:33  Show Profile
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I wonder if that is a legit pic. Wouldn't the sea around the tanker be far more disturbed than appears in the photo? Wouldn't the skipper have already taken an evasive manoever? Being fortunate enough never to have encountered anything like that I have to wonder.
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That looks like it might be a Great Lakes ore boat, which can't take evasive action in many areas--they're committed to a shipping lane or even a channel. As for the water, "the calm before the storm" is a very real phenomenon. In our situation (above), there wasn't enough wind to sail in until the storm hit. The "wall" you see is turbulence at the edge, which initially hits like a sledge hammer. The loaded ore boat will sail through it OK... A C-25 won't. <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> However, larger winter storms on Superior and Huron have broken ore boats in half and sunk 'em.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Doug
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Response Posted - 09/24/2003 :  20:11:34  Show Profile
Was told it's an oil tanker. As far the water being calm- I've seen many pictures of weather being good outside of the storm. Also heard the sailing/ surfing can be pretty good the day before or after.


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Bubba
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Response Posted - 09/24/2003 :  20:39:00  Show Profile
There's an article about the picture on the Urban Legends website - a great source for verifying some of the more spectacular news we see on the web. Apparently, the photo is real, but it's not Isabel. Here's a quote from the article:

<i>This image began circulating via email on Wednesday, Sept. 17, 2003 as Hurricane Isabel bore down on the eastern seaboard of the United States. It seems to have been intentionally mislabeled. According to a Web page of the National Weather Service, the photo, credited to Steve Todd, actually documents a tropical cyclone sighted in the Pacific Ocean six months ago named "Graham."</i>

Here's the Urban Legends page:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_isabel_photo.htm

Dave & Deb
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 09/24/2003 :  22:04:03  Show Profile
Well thanks guys! I hope that I never encounter one!
Derek

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mqp
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Response Posted - 09/25/2003 :  13:18:35  Show Profile
I saw this picture on the weather channel. They said it was a fake of Isabel (the hurricane that hit the East coast last week).


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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 09/25/2003 :  14:08:31  Show Profile
Almost 20 years ago I chartered a 38' Morgan and had stayed the night at Fisherman's Village in Charlotte Harbor on the west coast of Florida. When we left the marina, the skies looked just fine. We got a few miles away and saw a menacing, black cloud formation coming over the bay from the west. What made it unusual and frightening was that it was formed in two very distinct layers. We knew we were going to get it, but didn't think we had enough time to get the boat back into the marina and tied down before it hit, so we headed south down the bay. Charlotte Harbor is only about 15-20 feet deep in most places, so we never believed we were in serious danger. We thought we could just drop the anchor if it got really bad. We dropped the mainsail and rolled up all but a postage stamp of the jib. We looked down the bay and could see that we were the only boat out, and we took a compass sight for the mark at which we would have to turn. When the rain hit, it was so dense that you literally couldn't see past the bow, and it stung the skin if you were hit by it. With only a tiny bit of sail, we were close-reaching at hull speed, almost 8 knots. We held the boat on the compass heading, and were surprised that, despite the power of the storm, it passed over us as quickly as it came onto us.

Just before the storm hit, and while it was going on, I got my movie camera and took some film of the cloud and the action. I still have never seen a cloud formation that was layered like that one, and I've never been in a storm that dumped its precipitation so hard and fast, but the photo above, posted by Doug, bears some resemblance.

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554

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