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pierrem
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Initially Posted - 10/06/2003 : 11:43:52

I would like to remove the teak coaming trim to refinish...any suggestions?
Pierre

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timpky
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Response Posted - 10/06/2003 : 12:29:39

Mine were deteriorated to the point that they needed to be replaced. I replaced them with the white plastic ones available from Catalina Direct and have been quite pleased with both the look and lack of maintenance required.

Tim Peoples
Sarasota, FL
78 Catalina 25 SK Hull #875

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CatalinaGuy
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Response Posted - 10/06/2003 : 18:25:35

The Teak coaming is stuck on with silicone adhesive. You should be able to pull it off with your fingers but it will be destroyed in the process. I used the plastic replacements from CD - looks great.

Doug Hibberd, 'Shiraz'
C25 SK/SR 1983
Austin, TX

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Earl Landers
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Response Posted - 10/07/2003 : 21:57:14

Pierre,
Yes the teak coaming trim is held on with silicone, but with a sharp putty knife I was able to remove mine without doing any damage to them. After refinishing with Cetol, I glued them back on with more silicone.

Earl Landers
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cch
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Response Posted - 10/07/2003 : 23:32:28

Pierre,

What year is your boat?

My boat is a 1980 and the coaming trim is held on with stainless steel screws. They are easily removed sanded, treated and replaced. I have done it several times.

If there are no screws on yours they must be held on with silicone.

Chris Hunsicker
Panama City FL
Moonglade
80 C25 #2126 sr/sk
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pierrem
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Response Posted - 10/08/2003 : 22:29:21

no screws ...it is an 84. I tried with a putty knife but was concerned about breaking them ....two choices as i see it. 1. if they break replace them with plastic ones or tape and apply sikkens without removing.

Pierre

I am located in Madison Wisconsin 80 degrees today. How late do you keep your boats in the water in the great lakes?

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 10/08/2003 : 22:43:17

I sanded and carefully Cetoled them in place with a 1" foam brush--no tape, no problem.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Ben
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Response Posted - 10/09/2003 : 10:58:34

I find it strange that different boats have the coaming trim pieces glued on and other boats have them screwed on, especially since Chris Hunsickers 1980 C25 has screws, Pierre's 84 uses glue, and my 87 uses screws.<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ben
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Steve Shetter
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Response Posted - 10/09/2003 : 11:14:05

It is curious that Catalina would continue to make these simple changes, "At Last" is a 1981 Swinger with stainless screws.

Steve Shetter
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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 10/09/2003 : 11:25:48

Some of the screwed in examples may very well be PO modifications to compensate for silicon mounted covers being knocked off. Antares' are siliconed on, and after sanding them down I taped them off and varnished them in place.

J.B. Manley
Antares '85 FK/SR #4849
Grand Lake O' the Cherokees
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/09/2003 : 13:29:20

Years ago when I first started researching boats, I was told that Catalina made cheap boats because of two things that they did. One, they used chopper guns and two, they hired temporary help every morning so that only management and supervisors were full time employees. That meant that whatever out of work person was outside the loading dock in the morning on a given day would get hired. Obviously they tried to pick the same people most of the time but the work force still varied a lot from day to day. Would that (if true) explain a lot of anomalies. I would think coaming compartments assembly techniques may be the tip of the iceberg.

<img src="http://members.cox.net/fhopper/Catalina25/sigbow.jpg" border=0>Frank and Martha in Wichita KS. Lake Cheney

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deastburn
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Response Posted - 10/13/2003 : 22:47:50

Frank: You heard that, or you know it to be true? It sounds like one of those stories that get passed on and on and eventually get to be true.

Dave on "Wood Duck" (#2616 - SR, FK)

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/14/2003 : 10:36:34

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Frank: You heard that, or you know it to be true? It sounds like one of those stories that get passed on and on and eventually get to be true.

Dave on "Wood Duck" (#2616 - SR, FK)
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It came from a conversation with the local Catalina dealer back in the 80's. We were comparing the construction techniques of the J-24 and Catalinas. Whether it was true for a time and untrue today or what I could not tell you. A few years ago we held the 22 Nationals at our club and Catalina sent scales to wiegh the boats. The variations were remarkable, hundreds of lbs...

http://www.catalina22.org/nsa/racing/C22_wght_files/C22_wght.htm

that would certainly imply low quality control which is usually the result of reduced employee costs. The reality is Catalina has built strong safe boats, (other than the ocational droped keel<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>) for a very long time. So while it is interesting fodder for conversation it may be moot. Unless of course your the guy who showed up to race a 2130lb Catalina 22 in a 2570lb Catalina 22!

<img src="http://members.cox.net/fhopper/Catalina25/sigbow.jpg" border=0>Frank and Martha in Wichita KS. Lake Cheney

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 10/14/2003 : 13:28:42

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Years ago when I first started researching boats, I was told that Catalina made cheap boats because of two things that they did. One, they used chopper guns and two, they hired temporary help every morning so that only management and supervisors were full time employees. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

The way I heard it, Catalina used pop rivets and chopper guns to build their boats. I've crawled and peeked into every space I could find on my boat and never found a single pop rivet or any fiberglass made by a chopper gun. Those stories cropped up when Catalina was becoming the biggest boat builder in the industry. Catalina was building such a good product (ask any owner) that it was becoming difficult to sell other, more expensive boats, and dealers had an incentive to find some way to steer prospective buyers from the lower profit Catalina to other boats that generated higher profits.

I don't know whether Catalina ever had a practice of hiring temporary help, but I know that some very big industries hire temporary help to do work that requires no skill, and also to do highly skilled work that is only needed occasionally, so it's not an unusual industrial practice. But, if only management and a few supervisors knew what they were doing, one has to wonder how Catalina could build so many different models of boats so quickly.

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554

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Doug
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Response Posted - 10/14/2003 : 22:09:07

Haven't heard about temp help, but I have heard that employees have to work their way up the line. Entry level is the C22, then the 25, and so on. I will say that my C25 has nicer work than my C22 did.

Doug - #1913 Noeta

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