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Bubba
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Initially Posted - 10/19/2003 :  21:08:18  Show Profile
The luff of my main is not attached to the mast anywhere between the tack and reef cringle. (There are several grommets in between (not counting the Cunningham cringle.) The previous owner said that's the way he always sailed it. I've seen other boats with slides threaded so the sail will flake on the boom when reefed. In other words, the slides remain above the track stop while the sail drops below. I never paid close attention to these other rigs - guess I never had to bend one on. The C-250 manual doesn't address this. Am I missing something?

Dave & Deb
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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 10/20/2003 :  12:35:47  Show Profile
There are 2 ways to fix this.

1. Use regular slugs and install a mast gate.


<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3da35b3127cce961db15efdb90000001610" border=0>

2.Put it back the way it came from the factory. There is a line going between the 2 small grommets with 1 or 2 slugs (I can't remember if it is 1 or 2) on the line. This will allow the slugs to stop at the slug stopper and the main will flake on the boom.

The reason I like the first option, if you need to put in the 2nd reef you don't have to remove the slug stopper to get the slugs between the 1st and 2nd reef out of the track.


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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/20/2003 :  17:44:20  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Actually, the slugs can be floated on jack lines so that both reefs can be set without messing with the mast stop or using mast slots. Ullman sails installed my 2nd reef and set it up this way. I don't have a pic... but will try to get the sail off the boat and get a picture soon.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/20/2003 :  19:20:28  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
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Ullman sails installed my 2nd reef and set it up this way.
Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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My Ulman main has the jack lines for it's single reef and I was very pleased with how well it worked. The url to the picture at Catalina Direct is...
http://www.catalinadirect.com/sails/jackline.html

<img src="http://members.cox.net/fhopper/Catalina25/sigbow.jpg" border=0>Frank and Martha in Wichita KS. Lake Cheney
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Bubba
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Response Posted - 10/20/2003 :  21:30:26  Show Profile
Thanks all for the great responses.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> Both the mast gate and the jack lines look pretty straight forward. I'll try the jack lines first since they don't require drilling any new holes. I think I grasp the concept from Frank's illustration. However, Arlyn, if you get the chance to take a pic it would be helpful.

It looks like most of you have added a second reef. I was considering this as we can get some pretty good fall winds here on the Chesapeake (as Oscar recently described). All opinions gratefully accepted.

Dave & Deb
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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 10/21/2003 :  00:12:52  Show Profile
I use a 2 line 2nd reef. The reef must be put in while on the cabin top.

IMHO the mast gate is the best way to go. The cost is $25.00 and installs in a 1/2 an hour. I'm guessing it takes 2 or 3-weeks minimum to have Ullman install the jack line. Plus shipping. Again I'm guessing but you have to be looking at a $150.00 to $200.00 bill and you have to miss time sailing while the main is gone. I installed my mast gate without taking the sail off the boom.

Here is Joe Martinek e-mail address joemartinek@starband.net it can also be found on the this sites links page


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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/21/2003 :  07:53:42  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Bryan, I mislead in my above reference to Ulman installing the jack lines. They did this while installing the 2nd reef point. Earlier mains only had one reef which forced us to have another installed at our expense.

Jack lines can be installed without sending the sail to a loft.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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