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Oscar
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Initially Posted - 10/22/2003 : 13:55:42

The WB table, with it's storage spot in the V, and usability inside and out is a good idea in principle, and probably works for daysailing with a picnic basket, but, if you go cruising with a boat full of stuff and people, horsing the thing around is a royal rectal discomfort so if you have the same sentiments I recommend you:

*Take off the legs, and frisbee the top to the far corner of the backyard.
*Go to Home Depot and get a BU worth of your favorite hardwood. The choices were Maple, Oak or Poplar. I like Poplar.
*Get out all of your woodworking tools and go to town.

I made a small table with fiddles and a drawer in it using the legs:

<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/Table/Table1.JPG" border=0>
<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/Table/Table1andahalf.JPG" border=0>

When it's dining time there is a top, which nests in the fiddles:

<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/Table/Table3.JPG" border=0>
<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/Table/Table4.JPG" border=0>

On the inside of the head door I made two brackets:

<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/Table/Table5.JPG" border=0>

They hold the top when not in use...(Look Arlyn, bungee <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>)
Note, with a small allen wrench you can loosen the set-screw on the door handles and take them off. I put them back on vertically (up)so the inside one doesn't interfere with the table top, and now you can hang something on the outside one without it falling off all the time....like juniors life vest.
<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/Table/Table6.JPG" border=0>

The whole setup also works in the cockpit. I'm looking forward to using this arrangement. Finally, the four "starboard" blocks that held the legs to the table have also found a new use:

<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/Table/Table7.JPG" border=0>

It's good. Which cannot be said about the materials and workmanship used to put the mastfoot/compression post in. But I won't make an issue out of it. I'll deal with it and move on.

Oscar
250WB#618 Lady Kay on the Chesapeake
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Edited by - Oscar on 10/22/2003 20:04:02

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/22/2003 : 14:18:14

The only thing I see wrong with this mod <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle> ... is that I don't have one just like it.<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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[url="http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/"]Arlyn's C250 Mods n Cruising Stories[/url]

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 10/22/2003 : 17:37:22

Well, get busy! If you want dimensions let me know.

Oscar
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 10/22/2003 : 19:18:31

Qscar, That is out-of-sight. Just wonder wear the pipe that holds the small table came from? My new boat doesn't have anything like it. There is just a 3" post about 12" aft of the mast support that the table sits on. I was thinking about cuting the big table and making it fold out like yours, but did not know were to stow it until now. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

Frog and The General
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 10/22/2003 : 19:59:10

You are very welcome Frog,....glad to help. That's what this forum is all about after all.

The setup on your wing keel is different. As you can see the pipes straddle the centerboard box, which you don't have. I'm sure there's a way to do it on the WK.

Oscar
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Edited by - Oscar on 10/22/2003 20:03:11

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 10/23/2003 : 08:22:22

Oscar-

We've considered going to a drop leaf configuration on our table - just haven't gotten to it yet. We had a drop leaf table in our last house & had problems w/ "heavy elbows" making the leaves sag. We use our table a lot on the boat. What hardware did you use for the drop leaves?

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 10/23/2003 : 09:40:22

NO ELBOWS ON THE TABLE

Indeed, sagging of the drop leaves is an issue. You just have to be gentle. I put two galvanised U brackets (in the electrical department, used to mount electrical conduit) under the center leaf, and stick a long dowel through them that holds both the leaves up. If you have trouble visualizing this, let me know and I'll take a picture.

Oscar
250WB#618 Lady Kay on the Chesapeake

Edited by - Oscar on 10/23/2003 09:41:47

Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 10/23/2003 : 10:04:33

Nice mod Oscar!

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DougA
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Response Posted - 10/23/2003 : 15:16:46

I would love to have dimensions/drawing/pictures or what ever else you have.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 10/23/2003 : 16:03:27

Don't have any exact drawings, but here's a sketch, and with the pictures above you should come a long way.

I took the legs off the old table and put them in their holes and measured. 7x22 for the box I believe. I used 1x8 poplar for the box, and 1x10 for the top. For the fiddles I took 1x2 and ripped it in half. The sides and the bottom of the drawer are 1/2x4 cedar (right below the poplar at Home Depot).

The top is two 1x8x34 or so pieces edge glued (with biscuits) and the drop leaves are also 1x8. It is a little narrower than the old table, but also a little longer. I made a frame of 1x2 on the bottom of the top, which fits inside the fiddles and rests on the smaller table top. (The fiddles protrude 3/4 of an inch above the table, so they don't bear the load of the top.)

If you take a drawer out of your galley, you'll see that if you let the side of the drawer go past the bottom, you can cut out the notches for the locking mechanism (lift to open). I put a little piece (1/8x1xthe width of the box) as a "threshold" for the locking mechanism, not shown in the sketch.

I glued everything and used a nail gun with 1, 1-1/2 and 2" finish nails to hold it together 'till the glue dried.

Hope this helps. If you have any questions, please ask.

Oscar
250WB#618 Lady Kay on the Chesapeake

Edited by - Oscar on 10/23/2003 16:17:47

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