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1grndslr
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Initially Posted - 11/04/2003 : 09:12:20

I would like to install a roller furling system on my newly aquired '86 C25, FK/TR. I have three questions:
1: Which system would you recommend?
2: Can I have my 150 genoa recut to work with the system?
3: Can I install it myself?

I appreciate any help you can offer.

ted childs "Childs Play"

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Kirk McKay
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Response Posted - 11/04/2003 : 09:19:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by 1grndslr
 I would like to install a roller furling system on my newly aquired '86 C25, FK/TR. I have three questions:
1: Which system would you recommend?
2: Can I have my 150 genoa recut to work with the system?
3: Can I install it myself?

I appreciate any help you can offer.

ted childs "Childs Play"
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I got a Furlex 100S put on my boat last fall. It works great, was reasonably priced (and all parts need for instalation were included.) I didn't install it myself, nor did I use my old genoa, but I was told that you could do both. I wanted to make sure it was done correctly and I also wasn't sure how old the genoa was.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/04/2003 : 10:09:13

On my last boat I had the Harken system. The issue with any sailing gear is; what are the benefits vs. the compromises, (of course cost factors in but when you consider the life expectancy of sailing equipment it should not factor in all that much). Catalina Direct sells a Harken kit that includes the new forestay, 135% sail and the deck gear. It is the most expensive, but a bargain, and makes it so you can simply attach it and go. The big deal about a Harken is the luff foil is aerodynamically designed to minimize the turbulence caused by typical furler. In fact it is the same foil design that racing boats use. It also has two luff slots so if you ever need to change sails you can, even on the water. Also it is rated as a reefer. This is very important. The word furler means roll all the way up or all the way out. A furler is not designed to take the loads on a sail unless it is all of the way out. A furler/reefer is designed to allow you to sail with however much sail unfurled as you like. This is huge in high wind! Many people use furlers as reefers but do so at there own peril. If I put a “furler” on this boat I will not consider any product other than a Harken.

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deastburn
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Response Posted - 11/04/2003 : 10:45:24

This is a good time to buy a furler, since they are usually discounted by 20% or so this time of the year. I have a CDI (Cruising Direct) furler, which is sold via most of the catalogs, often with sails complete. It is a simple and rugged one-line furling system with a polyester foil whoch is relaively easy to install yourself (you'll need an additional pair of hands to keep the foil unrolled while you install it on the forestay the fist time). The folks at CDI are friendly and most helpful, and there are lots of them on C25's. They live in Marblehead, Mass.--it is a fairly small operation, hence easy to get personal attention.

There are lots of good furlers out there, but for a C25 you probably don't need a top-of-the-line racing furler with aerodynamic luff foil, etc. Not that that isn't a good thing to have if you can afford it.

Yes, you can have your genoa recut, but it may not be worth it if the sail is more than a few seasons old. RF genoas made specifically for C25's are not that expensive, and are readily available (another of the benefits of owning a popular sailboat!).

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1grndslr
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Response Posted - 11/04/2003 : 14:41:35

Thanks everyone, for the input. I'm currently looking at the CDI furler and sail from Cruise Direct. I sail on Lake Lanier, GA and currently am a fair weather sailer. Winds around here are often in the 5 - 15 range. I think the light weight system will be sufficient. Anybody think differently?

t childs "Childs Play" '86 FK/TR #5272

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 11/04/2003 : 20:04:16

I just got through installing the new Schaefer Snapfurl CF-700. It has a flexible foil for us trailer sailors. Both the Harken, and Profurl reps discouraged me from one of their units because of the trailering issue. I also purchased an Ullman 135.
I got the whole system from Catalina Direct. I was the first one to get this system from them and was their test dummy. I worked out some bugs, and am intending to write a report. Someday.
I haven't tried reefing with it yet. I have to pull the boat out in a week. I'm taking three weeks off this winter to take it to the Keys. I'll try reefing it then

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cch
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Response Posted - 11/05/2003 : 01:28:32

Ted,

We installed the CDI Furler 6 years ago and really love it. It works great, has never given us a bit of trouble. We had it installed but feel it would not be tough to do yourself. The loft that installed the CDI unit strongly suggested having it shipped layed out straight as opposed to rolled up. I believe CDI offer shipping both ways.

We have a 165 jib we had recut with luff foam added. I feel the luff foam is a must. Works great but be sure to work with someone who knows what they are doing. Be sure to read Frank's comments on "reefing" head sails. If you are going to add a furler and have your sail recut be sure you can reef the jib to any size.

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1grndslr
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Response Posted - 11/05/2003 : 09:13:00

Thanks again to all who responded to my inquiry. I appreciate the help of fellow sailors. It looks like I'm well on my way to getting a furling/reefing system.

Special thanks to Chris for the info. on CDI and foam luffs.

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