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pierrem
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Initially Posted - 11/07/2003 :  22:09:26  Show Profile
My 84 tall rig came with a cockpit mounted(below the port seat about a foot from the companionway)throttle/shift assy. I have an 8hp Evinrude. Did this come from the factory?

Some ways it is really nice. dont have to lean over to control shifting or speed...downside...problematic...especially idle creep. I cant seem to adjust it properly either stalls out or screams in neutral. If I do get it right it only lasts a trip or two than further adjustment. Anybody know anything about this?

Pierre...sorry not a Frank

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 11/09/2003 :  11:31:01  Show Profile
Hi Pierre,

Your throttle/shift assembly is NOT a factory option. A previous owner installed it sometime.

There's a good chance that your adjustment problems have come about with age. Both the throttle/shifter assembly may have simply worn out. And/or, the linkage within the engine may be worn out. Like all machinery, these things do wear out over time.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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pierrem
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Response Posted - 11/09/2003 :  21:34:58  Show Profile
Bill,
thanks for your input. I like the system.I guess I will try to keep it operating for 2004. I want to get a roller furling and am debating on using my original 150 or coughing up for both furler and new sail. probably about $2k.

Pierre

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deastburn
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Response Posted - 11/10/2003 :  16:50:01  Show Profile
I just checked with Johnson sails (jsisails.com) and the CDI FF4 furler is $460 and a 5.9 oz. 130% genoa around $800. So you can do it for well under 2k...

For what it's worth, sails are to a sailboat what tires are to a car. Too many of us handicap our C25's by holding onto old, sagging, stretched-out sails. I am getting ready to plunk down the $ for a new main AND genoa. Loose-footed main and 135% genoa. Hey, the Market's back, we're all going to be rich again, I can afford it, besides, I can get another 150K out of my old Mitsu, can't I? It's all just a question of priorities.

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 11/10/2003 :  17:06:42  Show Profile
It amazes me that people will find a 15-20 year old boat with original sails and be excited to use them - they're not blown out. My Thistle came with an older set of sails and it moved like a Mack trusck. Over the first winter I got a new suit of sails, and the boat took off like a rocket. New sails do make a difference!

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Sunshine Daydream
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Response Posted - 11/10/2003 :  17:54:34  Show Profile
How do I know when my sails are getting worn out?

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pierrem
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Response Posted - 11/10/2003 :  19:59:02  Show Profile
Would any of you attempt to install a CDI furler and new head sail yourself.

It seems I got a quote from a boat yard for $1300 for a CDI fuler installed using an existing sail. Sound about right?

based on previous posts that varies from info recd.

Should i attempt myself? sometimes a "hammer has too many moving parts for me"
Pierre

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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 11/10/2003 :  21:03:27  Show Profile
A modestly handy guy can install a CDI, but it sure helps to have an extra hand who is familiar with tools. Do you have a buddy that fits the bill? By going over the project thoroughly in the explanatory literature that comes with the furler system twwo persons should be able to do this no trouble. I think 1400 clams for this job is way over the edge. If the furler is about five hundred, what on EARTH would the other nine hundred be for? Two or three hours work? Unless this includes a new sail...God bless, ron srsk Orion SW FL

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Eric Dove
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Response Posted - 11/11/2003 :  14:12:26  Show Profile
Check out the Hood SeaFlex furler. I ordered mine directly from their website. It's actually on the parent company's website which I believe is http://www.pompanette.com. I highly recommend it. It has the flexibility, cost, and simplicity of the CDI, but with a halyard swivel, so you can properly tension the headsail using your standard jib halyard. And, for that same reason, it's REALLY easy to change sails. I had a CDI on a previous boat and never felt like I got the right tension on the headsail, since all the pressure is along the extrusion and not coming from the mast. Plus, it was VERY inconvenient to change sails. I installed the SeaFlex on my C25 tall rig last winter, and it works great. Very easy to install on your existing forestay also. It costs $499. If you're considering a CDI, which I know a lot of people love, you should at least check it out.

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Eric Dove
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Response Posted - 11/11/2003 :  14:16:37  Show Profile
Just another note: The extrusion of my old CDI broke in two once. Had it off the mast right when I got the boat to sort out lines, etc. and with what I feel was a pretty gentle bend, it just snapped. CDI was great...they sent me a new extrusion, no questions asked....but it always worried me after that. The SeaFlex extrusion is very similar, except it has an inner steel cable to add to its strength. Still just as flexible for demasting/trailering.

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Eric Dove
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Response Posted - 11/11/2003 :  14:20:12  Show Profile
Okay...it'd be nice if I thought of everything in one post... ;)

One other thing...even though the model pictured on the Hood webpage shows an enclosed drum, the newer model (new last year actually) has a cage more like the higher line furlers (Harken, etc.) This, to me, makes managing the furling line much easier.

Okay...I think that's all.

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pierrem
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Response Posted - 11/11/2003 :  21:49:04  Show Profile
Eric,
thanks for your input. I am probably slightly more handy than I give my self credit for. I may ask a buddy if he would help. Seems most people recomend the cdi. I checked out the website. The seaflex looks great. How long to install?
Pierre

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