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frog0911
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Initially Posted - 11/18/2003 : 11:31:26

Contacted Joe Martinek a couple weeks ago, sent him some pictures and the gate measurements for my new boat. You guess it, he made one up for me $15. I installed it yesterday and with about 10 swipes on each in with a file it slid into place perfectly.
For all the C250 family, if you want a better sail shape when you reef, for $15 he can fix you right up. You can contact him at joemartinek@starband.net

Frog and The General

C250, Pretty Penny II, #743
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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 11/18/2003 : 15:44:50

Kind a looks like this

I posted this last spring when Joe made mine. For some reason there was not any interest.

IMHO if people spend the $15.00 and install the gate they will never go back to the slug stopper.

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 11/18/2003 : 15:47:41

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Bryan Beamer
 I posted this last spring when Joe made mine. For some reason there was not any interest.

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Au contraire, my friend. By my reckoning, at least a dozen C25s now have new Joe Martinek mast gates. Thank you very much!

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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 11/18/2003 : 15:59:06

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Au contraire, my friend. By my reckoning, at least a dozen C25s now have new Joe Martinek mast gates. Thank you very much!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I can't take credit for that.

Let me rephrase my statement: For some reason there was not any interest among the C250 crowd.

Some one posted about mast gates on the C25 forum that is what gave me the idea to ask Joe if he made them for a C250. He also makes them for a Coronado 25 and probably for any sailboat if you give him the measurements of the opening.

Edited by - Bryan Beamer on 11/18/2003 16:00:50

frankr
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Response Posted - 11/18/2003 : 16:05:14

My C250K Hull #690 came with a big quarter sized thumb wheel type screw that threads into the mast at the top of the slot. It keeps the slugs from falling out. Does the 3 inches of added slot drop with the mast gates make that much difference?

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 11/18/2003 : 16:28:32

Frank, If the boat lives at slip or mooring, then mast gates can be of benefit. Using them, the slug stop wouldn't be used.

There are alternatives to mast gates... they are to mount the slugs that would cause a problem with reefing (usually the 2nd reef) on a jack line. Mast gates or jack lines, some method to avoid having to undo the mast stop during reefing.

Trailered boats would not want the mast gates... too much settup trouble to screw them on and off... jack lines would be a better way to go.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 11/18/2003 : 20:30:57

Ordered mine, in spite of the added screw on/screw off. We'll see if it's too much hassle. I am a stickler for reefed sail shape.

Oscar
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 11/18/2003 : 21:20:57

No difference in reefed sail shape with jack lines or mast gates... the reef tack comes down to the goosneck without a problem.

It should be noted that the reason mast gates are so popular on the c25 is that they have no slug stopper. Without mast gates, their slugs fall out. Jack lines wouldn't solve their problem so they don't use them.

Here is the pic of the c25 mast, it has no slug stopper.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 11/18/2003 : 22:49:43

Our 79 C25 had a slug stopper located at the top of the gate. It had a wing nut which made it easy to release and tighten down when installed. In the 16 years we owned Penny I never had it come lose when I did not want it too.
Did not know about the previous mast gate post. When I talked with Joe he gave me the impression he had not done one for the C250 and asked for pictures and measurements. All's well that ends well. The reason I order one is for the sail shape problem and the big screw they used looked like it would be a pain to release in a hurry and the odds of having it go overboard, when in a weather situation while trying to re-install after reefing, appeared to be a high percentage. Trying to get that screw started while bouncing all over the place would be a challenge. Anyway works good last a long time!!!

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 11/18/2003 : 23:00:57

The mast gates will work fine.

Regarding the slug stopper... while preping my boat, I added a lanyard to the stopper. A small braided nylon line about 8 inches long that attaches to the bail of the quick pin on the goose neck. I don't take them both loose at the same time, one is always saving the other.

btw...I have emailed Gary Swenson to see if he will provide a drawing of the jack lines.

Edited by - Arlyn Stewart on 11/18/2003 23:02:50

Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 11/18/2003 : 23:49:46

This is my opinion.

The 10 minutes it took me to install the mast gate, I would wonder why a person would mess with installing a jack line.

When I take my sail off the mast I only remove the top screw and just loosen the bottom one. The mast gate swings out of the way (180 degrees from normal) I tighten up the screw that I loosened. then I pull the slugs out of the slot. I do take the gate off completely before I trailer the boat.

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 11/19/2003 : 20:26:26

After rigging jack lines I find they snag on the slug stopper when raising the main. The stock thumb-wheel sticks out so far it rubs against the boltrope on the luff. I suppose I could modify it, but I think I'll just relocate it... to a bin in my garage.

I sent for a mast gate. My goal is to open the mast gate twice a year: at splash and haul-out.

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