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Terry Annis
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Initially Posted - 12/01/2003 : 13:25:50

It seems A&E has 2 new movies on Dec. 2 and 3rd
in case someone else is also a fan

Terry

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cch
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Response Posted - 12/01/2003 : 15:50:26

Thanks Terry,

I always look forward to these, almost as much as I enjoyed the books.

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ppetracca
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Response Posted - 12/01/2003 : 17:19:21

Thanks Terry....It's been marked on my calendar as well.

Have to admit I've read them all and all of Patick O'Brian's and prefer Hornblower to the recent "Master & Commander". The action in M&C was great and the authenticity was excellent, however my wife and I both agreed the characters were not personable. We just could not get any feeling for any of them.

Can't wait for the next couple of nights. Two more to add to my DVD collection!

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Response Posted - 12/01/2003 : 17:57:35

If you have the boxed set of the 4 DVD's from the first A & E season don't forget that there was a 2-part episode entitled "Mutiny" which was shown on A & E in 2001 and is also available (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005B1VL/qid=1070319021/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/102-9963189-2448125?v=glance&s=dvd). In that episode he graduates to "Captain Hornblower"...

PS-trivia time: did you know that Ioan Griffud was tapped to be the next James Bond after Pierce Brosnan but has so far turned it down?

Rich Kokoska

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Response Posted - 12/02/2003 : 07:56:37

Thanks for the info Raskal...I have the 6 DVD set.

I did not know that he had been offered James Bond.

I do know that he appeared in Titanic, but I have no desire to watch it twice to find out who he played.

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Response Posted - 12/02/2003 : 10:50:07

I am also looking forward to H.H.! I share some disappointment about the recent M&C movie- my expectations were high since the reviews were very positive and I enjoyed Patrick O'Brian's first book in the series (the only one I've read). Captured the sailing special effects pretty well, though... too bad they missed the boat on character development. I still want to catch Pirates of the Caribbean...

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Response Posted - 12/02/2003 : 13:18:45

Patrick on Yankee Spirit,

Ioan Gruffudd in Titanic played the officer of one of the rescue launches that arrived after the sinking. His was the one that finally picked up Kate Winslet

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Ironically the scene is remarkably like one in the first Hornblower A&E film, when Hornblower is in charge of the launch sent to pick up survivors of the sinking of the Justinian. The line "Just keep shouting, and we'll find you!" may even be the same!

Yeaaa, more Hornblower episodes with Ioan, and his team.

Jim Williams
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RichardG
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Response Posted - 12/02/2003 : 18:12:11

[url="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0344435/"]Ioan Gruffudd[/url]

TITANIC -- Fifth Officer Harold Godfrey Lowe

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Response Posted - 12/03/2003 : 07:35:26

AWESOME!!!! Thoroughly enjoyed the movie last night. Can't wait until tonight.

I am very pleased with the way they film makers have kept to the story line in Forrester's books.

My wife ordered my two new DVD's last night while I was watching, so I know what Santa is bringing me.

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SailormanCGA72
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Response Posted - 12/03/2003 : 08:26:37

I thoroughly enjoyed the movie last evening. One thing that was inaccurate was the way the common sailors addressed the officers. No sailor would ever start a conversation with any officer, much less the captain. They spoke to officers only when spoken to. But I suppose the cinematographers need that gimmick to advance the story line.

As an aside, I prefer O'Brian's Aubrey to Forester's Hornblower.

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Response Posted - 12/03/2003 : 09:40:23

Steve,

I have to respectfully disagree with you. I find Hornblower a much better character than Aubrey. I think it stems from seeing Hornblower progress through the ranks as each book continues. In the first book Aubrey is already a captain and has already developed the friendship with the doctor that is to carry througout the series. Without knowing how that relationship developed or what hardships were endured to become captain, it is harder to enjoy Aubrey. I have only read the first 4 of the O'Brian books and have quit becuase the characters are somewhat 2 dimensional.

I do agree that in the real world, subordinates would not have been so familar with their officers, however it is a theme throughout Forrester's books that aid to Horblower's characteristic concern for his men.

On a side note, I have just finished book #24 of Alexander Kent's Richard Bolitho series and have enjoyed each one enormously. Maybe this will start a trend and we'll see his books put on film in the future.

For another twist on this type of fiction, try Dewey Lambdin's Alan Lewrie novels. He is certainly a different type character to say the least. I think because Lambdin is an American writer he takes more leeway with the staunch approach to historically British Naval tradition.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 12/03/2003 : 18:36:57

I you like these historical fiction books, you would probably enjoy Sharpe's Rifles series by Bernard Cornwell. I have the entire series. It's land combat, not naval, but in the Napelonic wars. PBS Masterpiece Theater did a handfull of the books also, and these DVDs are available from various sources (Amazon.com).

I love Sharpe and his seargent Patrick. Sharpe also rises through the ranks. Bernard Cornwell also includes a fascinating section at the back of each book comparing his fiction with the actual historical sources he uses.

PS. Also enjoy Hornblower more than Patrick OBrien's series. I feel he delves too deeply into the shore life of the women and not enough sailing.

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Response Posted - 12/05/2003 : 15:56:18

Admiral Jim is right, if you guys like Hornblower will you definitely like "Sharpe's rifles". That series didn't get much exposure in the US and ran for over 15 episodes, but you can find people selling single episode dvd's on eBay. Buy episode 1 to check it out.

The Hornblower series has its own web page with actor interviews. Do a keyword search and you should find it.

I'm actually impressed with how well the directors managed to make good use of scarce resources to film this. No one seems to even notice that all of the ships on which they appear are only 1/3 the size being mentioned in the dialog (the Indefatigable was described as having 74 guns--yeah, right!). And I could swear in any given episode the same faces that wore Spanish uniforms last week are British marines this week...

What we need is to have Horatio chase down the Pirates of the Caribbean...and hang them all!

Rich Kokoska

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Response Posted - 12/05/2003 : 16:05:09

I was impressed by the directors ability to get so much out of so sparse a budget. Many of the scenes probably wouldn't have made it in some movies. The use of reletivly unknown actors made the movie more enjoyable. Waiting for the next movies.

Bruce/WindShadow/SK/SR/Central Fl. Lakes

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