Association Forum - Line Replacement

Assn Members Area · Join

Home.

Association Forum

Ships Store

Cruising

Racing

Technical Tips

Photo Gallery - New

Boat Search - Updated

Manuals & Brochures

Swap Meet

Links

Officer Flag Line & Staff

Bylaws & Constitution

Members Area

Join the Association

Notice:
The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.

Association Forum

Username:	Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

All Forums

Catalina/Capri 25/250 Sailor's Forums

Catalina 250 Specific Forum

Line Replacement

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Author

Topic

High H2O
1st Mate

Member Avatar

35 Posts

Initially Posted - 12/11/2003 : 12:42:30

Is there a list of all lines with lengths & diameters for the C250 available? I'm going to replace the jib sheets, furling line, toping lift and maybe some others. Just wondered if measurements are available somewhere so I don't have to remove and measure. Also, I'm not sure that all the rigging I have is the correct diameters and materials.

Edited by - on

Robert
1st Mate

Members Avatar

USA
75 Posts

Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 12:55:05

Check page 11 in your C250 owners manual.Mine has a complete listing.
Robert

Edited by - on

Dkn420
Captain

Members Avatar

USA
298 Posts

Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 13:13:13

High H20...if you can't find that page just let me know and I will scan it and send it to you...main halyard is 5/16" low stretch at 65' and the same for the jib halyard...sheets are 3/8" dacron @ 50' and mainsheet for waterballast is 70'...Furling line for Snapfurl is 1/4" dacron and 50'...Toping lift is 1/4" low stretch and 50'...Dan #727

Edited by - on

sailgal
Captain

Members Avatar

USA
400 Posts

Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 13:40:35

I ended up shortening some of my lines....so keep that in mind when you shop (leaves extra $ for other boat goodies

)

Edited by - on

Arlyn Stewart
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
2980 Posts

Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 13:48:25

Suzie is right, I trimmed off several lines also and I think went up one size to 3/8 on the main halyard to make it slightly easier to handle.

Edited by - Arlyn Stewart on 12/11/2003 13:50:25

Frank Hopper
Past Commodore

Members Avatar

Pitcairn Island
6776 Posts

Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 13:51:49

Hey High,
I do not know your over all experience level, just your newbie status on this board. Line length is a handy data point to have. NEVER SPEND MONEY BUYING THE SAME OLD STUFF WHEN THE SAME MONEY COULD IMPROVE YOUR BOAT! Line diameter is a function of personal choice. One thing you can count on is that Catalina used inexpensive line on their boats. Therefore it is larger in diameter and heavier than needed. The big issue for line choice is balancing comfort (ease of handling) with weight. The advent of high tech line has made the diameter of line and therefore the weight of line a question of preference. There are several brands of 1/4” cordage that will serve as overkill for halyards for your boat. I am now using 1/4” halyards on my 25 and they have a breaking load of over 5000lb. It will reduce weight aloft and windage to use as small a line as you are comfortable with, (windage is negligible with internal halyards). Sheets offer a particularly interesting situation. In light air a small diameter line will weigh less and the sail will hold its shape better, however you want sheets that are easy to haul on without garroting your fingers. The bottom line to my post is that you should go to a store with cordage and have a face to face with a sales person who can help you evaluate your goals and choose the cordage you really want. If there are no stores in your area then go to the layline.com website and get their number, call them. They are up to date on cordage and will help you. Actually catalinadirect.com will also let you talk to the owner who is very knowledgeable about cordage.

Edited by - on

High H2O
1st Mate

Members Avatar

35 Posts

Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 14:23:46

Well, a lot of info to ponder. Thanks everyone. In my nearly 30 years experience an a climber here in Colorado, I've witnessed tremendous improvements in both dynamic and static climbing ropes. It does not surprise me that cordage for sailing has been improving also. I like the idea of using smaller diameters on lines that are handled less frequently. I think I'll keep the sheets the same though.

Edited by - on

Bryan Beamer
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1038 Posts

Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 18:24:05

Hi Ric,

If you would like next time you are at the lake stop by my boat (slip 341,343) and you can look at the lengths of my halyards & how the topping lift is set up. I know you mentioned running the halyards back to the cockpit.

How was your sail on Sunday?

Where in Indiana is Eagle Creek Reservoir? I grew up sailing on Brookville Lake, which is in Southeast Indiana.

Edited by - on

High H2O
1st Mate

Members Avatar

35 Posts

Response Posted - 12/11/2003 : 21:58:39

Hi Bryan,

Eagle Creek Res. is on the west side of Indianapolis. It's a great sailing lake... no powerboats allowed. Similar in size to Pueblo. Hey, is Brookville Lake near the town of Brookville? I have an old college friend from there.

The sail on Sunday was very good. We motored over to skiers cove and waited for it to settle down a bit. We had a spirited sail when we went for it. I appreciate the offer to check out your rigging. When do you plan to be at the lake next?

Ric

Edited by - on

Bryan Beamer
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1038 Posts

Response Posted - 12/12/2003 : 10:31:01

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">is Brookville Lake near the town of Brookville?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Yes.

Actually they had to move the town when they made the lake. The original location of Brookville is now on the bottom of the lake.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">When do you plan to be at the lake next?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I would love to get there Saturday (tomorrow) but I have some Holiday things to take care of. So if I do it will be late Saturday. I will be there for sure Sunday. It is going to be in the 60's

Call me on my cell 719-499-8790 if you want to meet Sunday.

Edited by - on

High H2O
1st Mate

Members Avatar

35 Posts

Response Posted - 12/12/2003 : 10:37:47

Bryan, Sunday would work best for me also. I'll call in the a.m.

Ric

Edited by - on

Bryan Beamer
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1038 Posts

Response Posted - 12/27/2003 : 14:47:00

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dkn420
 if you can't find that page just let me know and I will scan it and send it to you...main halyard is 5/16" low stretch at 65' and the same for the jib halyard...sheets are 3/8" dacron @ 50' and mainsheet for waterballast is 70'...Furling line for Snapfurl is 1/4" dacron and 50'...Toping lift is 1/4" low stretch and 50'...Dan #727
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

My 2000wk manual does not list the line lengths anywhere. The measurements above are for a water ballast. Are the lines the same length for the wing?

My halyards are run back to the cockpit and 65' doesn't seem long enough. Adding a page to the manual with this info would be helpful in the future. I do know the jib sheets on the wk are 50' long but the tape measure says they are 7/16" not 3/8".

Any thoughts?

Edited by - on

Dkn420
Captain

Members Avatar

USA
298 Posts

Response Posted - 12/27/2003 : 15:54:29

Bryan: The link below is to the "Rigging" page that was in the manual with my 2004 C250WK, hull #727...hope this helps to clarify what I wrote....Dan

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/dkn420/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/2004wkrigging.jpg

Edited by - on

Bryan Beamer
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1038 Posts

Response Posted - 12/27/2003 : 19:04:34

Thanks Dan.
This will help

Edited by - on

Topic

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Jump To:

Association Forum

Notice: The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.