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Frank Hopper
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Initially Posted - 12/18/2003 :  22:39:07  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Are our genoa tracks 1" or 1 1/4"? I want to buy new cars.
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/18/2003 :  22:48:51  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com</i>
<br />Are our genoa tracks 1" or 1 1/4"? I want to buy new cars.
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1"

I like the Garhauer track cars (I have two sets) and I particularly like the price, $33.88ea.
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frich
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Response Posted - 12/18/2003 :  23:01:43  Show Profile  Visit frich's Homepage
While we are speaking about genoa tracks.. I would like to know if there is a general location where one would keep the cars located. I understand conditions play an important role but I for one have better things to do while underway than to adjust their location.

Frank R
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/18/2003 :  23:05:03  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by frich</i>
<br />While we are speaking about genoa tracks.. I would like to know if there is a general location where one would keep the cars located. I understand conditions play an important role but I for one have better things to do while underway than to adjust their location.

Frank R
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In average wind conditions, generally the postion of the genoa cars should be such that the sheet bisects the angle made by the foot and leech of the sail.


From this starting postion, adjustments can be made to the track car position to either power up or depower the headsail. Moving the track car forward will power up the headsail and moving it back will spill wind and depower the headsail.

A quick way to remember which way to move the cars is to remember this saying,..."Power UP, and Back DOWN"

To "Power UP" the headsail, move the car UP(forward).

To "Back DOWN" or depower the headsail, move the car DOWN(aft).
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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 12/18/2003 :  23:15:20  Show Profile
Frank,

My own personal starting points for the cars, and where they stay when I'm feeling lazy, are: 155%-midway between coaming winch and first stanchion forward of stern pulpit, 110%-between main salon windows, 80%-all the way forward near first stanchion aft of bow pulpit.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/19/2003 :  07:03:37  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by frich</i>
<br />While we are speaking about genoa tracks.. I would like to know if there is a general location where one would keep the cars located. I understand conditions play an important role but I for one have better things to do while underway than to adjust their location.

Frank R
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Oh contraire, there is nothing better to do than the pursuit of perfect sail shape. I use an 80%, 110%, 135%, and a 150%, hence my desire to get more cars. When single handing the 80% and 110% are a B to adjust.
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frich
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Response Posted - 12/19/2003 :  08:10:58  Show Profile  Visit frich's Homepage
Ah! I beg to differ a few tunes on the CD, a brewsky, and a leisurely sail beat sail shape for me
Frank R

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by frich</i>
<br />While we are speaking about genoa tracks.. I would like to know if there is a general location where one would keep the cars located. I understand conditions play an important role but I for one have better things to do while underway than to adjust their location.

Frank R
84 C25 Sk
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Oh contraire, there is nothing better to do than the pursuit of perfect sail shape. I use an 80%, 110%, 135%, and a 150%, hence my desire to get more cars. When single handing the 80% and 110% are a B to adjust.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/19/2003 :  08:51:04  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Hmmm, moon rise over the dam, Cat Stevens on the stereo, laughter wafting across the water from various boats, my beautiful wife in my arm... and me riveted on the tell tales. A little bit of heaven
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CatalinaGuy
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Response Posted - 12/19/2003 :  11:05:43  Show Profile
Has anyone fitted an adjustable sheet lead block system to the track? This would be the ultimate in adjusting headsail trim without leaving the cockpit. Particularly for the those with roller reefing.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/19/2003 :  11:58:46  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by CatalinaGuy</i>
<br />Has anyone fitted an adjustable sheet lead block system to the track? This would be the ultimate in adjusting headsail trim without leaving the cockpit. Particularly for the those with roller reefing.
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Our track on a non mark IV curves along the toe rail. That is a bad thing for adjustable cars.
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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 12/19/2003 :  12:02:34  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com</i>
<br />That is a bad thing for adjustable cars.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
?????
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/19/2003 :  13:48:33  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Antares</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com</i>
<br />That is a bad thing for adjustable cars.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
?????
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As I understand it, a cleat car is usually someplace behind the farthest place aft your genoa car may need to go, another fairlead/turning block car sits forward of the farthest forward point your high wind jib car may need to go. You then need to run the line back from that forward most car to a cleat in the cockpit. With a curved track your lines cut the radius and do not ride directly above the tack all of the time, running into other deck items that are nestled against your track. I just don't think the concept is a very good one for our boats.
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