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mroettersr
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Initially Posted - 12/21/2003 :  23:49:31  Show Profile
Here on Lake Erie we have an endagered species called the Lake Erie Brown snake that has the habit of getting into boats. This tends to scare the crap out of unsuspecting owners as they open their boats. (Because of this the snakes are likely to become more endangered through attrition by boat owners.) I opened my fuel lazerette last summer to find a four footer snoozing around my fuel tank. Using my boat hook, I managed to get the thing to exit the boat through the scupper where he no doubt found an entrance. Am I the only one to have this type of experience? I can't very well plug the scuppers for obvious reasons. The marina is full of these things especially in June and July so I don't know why they are endangered. I might exchange my boat hook for a spade.
Mike Roetter
'83 C25 #3568 SK/SR
Marblehead on Lake Erie
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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Response Posted - 12/22/2003 :  00:09:31  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Coarse screen, extruded aluminum? Bass-o-matic?
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lcharlot
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Antigua and Barbuda
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Response Posted - 12/22/2003 :  08:31:27  Show Profile
I have never heard of a snake crawling into a boat, but we do have a big problem at Folsom Lake in spring and summer with birds building nests in sail covers. They pluck any loose thread to weave into the nest and can damage your sail and sail cover. We have also had an increasing problem with crows. As the countryside around Folsom is subjected to ever increasing development and urban sprawl, wildlife is pushed into the undeveloped land comprising Folsom Lake State Park, and the huge flocks of crows are making for big messes of bird-splat on the boats in the marina, and causing a lot of broken wind instruments on mastheads. The Windex vane isn't strong enough to take the weight of a big bird like a crow landing on it.
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GeorgeB
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Response Posted - 12/22/2003 :  09:47:08  Show Profile
AAAGH!!! Snakes
I'd look for some covering for the scuppers.

On older versions (like my 1980) There is a grate on the cockpit drain.

Does any one know where a replacement can be found?
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/22/2003 :  11:09:01  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
How about exhaust floppers?
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Raskal
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Response Posted - 12/22/2003 :  11:24:57  Show Profile
Time to start keeping the pet Python on the boat...

Rich Kokoska
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/22/2003 :  11:27:58  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Raskal</i>
<br />Time to start keeping the pet Python on the boat...

Rich Kokoska
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Or a mongoose!

The first time the Admiral saw a Lake Erie watersnake was the last time she went swimming!
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tinob
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Response Posted - 12/22/2003 :  12:30:48  Show Profile
Snakes you say?

Some boats here about have flappers covering their scuppers on the outside, allowing water to flow out the boat but not the other way around. Might keep snakes out. On the other hand are they edible. Like ten parts zebra mussels one part Lake Erie Brown snake some garlic and tomato puree.


Val on the hard DAGNABIT
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 12/22/2003 :  15:54:18  Show Profile
Val - I don't know about the Lake Erie Brown Snake - but Western Diamondback Rattlesnakes taste like chicken (Honest!!) - and we have both those and Water Moccasins in Canyon Lake... I occasionally find one curled up on one of the hoist tanks...
Derek
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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 12/22/2003 :  20:46:02  Show Profile
A few years ago I removed my boat's scuppers and glued screen material (purchased at Builders Square) inside. It works great ... don't know about snakes, though.
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Doug
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Response Posted - 12/22/2003 :  23:13:25  Show Profile
On the plane we used to have birds or bugs nest in the assorted openings. We used a those plastic dish scrubber balls to block the openings. Cheap, stopped most things from going in, but still let air pass.
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mroettersr
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Response Posted - 12/23/2003 :  00:37:54  Show Profile
I can't imagine eating one of those things although chopped up they may make good fish food for Lake Erie Perch and Walleye. I like the idea of the plastic scrubber balls. Should solve the problem. Luckely, our boats have a high freeboard. The power boats in the marina with lower freeboard frequently find the snakes freely roaming their boats and they don't have an escape route. Yuk.
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skipn809
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Response Posted - 12/23/2003 :  09:25:51  Show Profile
Mousetraps.
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/23/2003 :  09:48:19  Show Profile
Before you guys start sauteing the Lake Erie water snake with some shallots, keep in mind that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has classified it as a threatened species.

Having said that, if the last known water snake ventured onto North Star, the Admiral would most definately introduce it to the working end of the boat hook.
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tinob
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Response Posted - 12/23/2003 :  13:07:47  Show Profile
Derek,

I'f I ever listed the,"I'll never eat that" in a book at my house i'd look like the Suffolk telephone book, so I go out of my way to introduce novel(not a MacDonald item) fare to the household. I'm the cook usually. Next on the menu after the Bahama trip is PULPO, Won't even tell them it's octapus.

I've eaten alligator, rattlesnakes, every kind of shellfish, some of which I'm allergic to but eat them anyway. I draw the line with chocolate covered ants, don't like chocolate and grubs and worms. A favorite is smoked eels. I've probably forgotten several items but it might be a form BSE from some prions that found their way into my food chain

Val on the hard DAGNABIT
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