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Jonathan Cuff
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Initially Posted - 01/20/2004 :  15:57:47  Show Profile
Hi Chaps

Down in Grand Cayman we've had a month of heavy winds (for us) in the region of 17-25 knots. Normally it is a lot less here. I've been sailing with reefed main and 110 jib, but was wondering if many of you regularly sail in these kind of winds (or more) and if so what the limits are. I've not been out of control yet, but with gusts we do heel over pretty well. The boat goes along great at 6 knots plus.

Cheers
Pie Sees 2 C25 #5686 1987 SR/WK
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 01/21/2004 :  00:08:15  Show Profile
Well, you've come back with the boat in one piece, didn't lose control, and had great fun... so the combination sounds about right to me. (grins) Seriously, that sail mix sounds about right for those conditions... upper 20's (kts) I'd think about a smaller jib.. then a 2nd reef.

Just for kicks, why not invest in a clinometer? They aren't very expensive ($12) and it may be interesting to see just what angle of heel you're sailing at.

My experience is that seat of the pants estimates of heel are often substantially greater than the actual... especially in moments of 'crisis'.
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Douglas
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Response Posted - 01/21/2004 :  00:18:05  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
I start to reef at 30 and am reefed to second reef and 70 jib at 40 but then again Im weighing in at 2.5 tons dry and have a full keel. Sailing on Wind Lass when I had her was a lot more complicated. Tall rig as she was I was tender in 15 and had better have reefed by 20.
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BCain
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Response Posted - 01/21/2004 :  08:07:07  Show Profile
Jonathan, Somewhere I remember reading that the Cat 25 sails best at 15 degrees of heel in 15 knots of wind. This due to the hull shape being more efficient at that angle. I usually fly my 110 jib and reef at this speed and have never had a problem.

Bruce , WindShadow, Central Florida Lakes
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deastburn
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Response Posted - 01/21/2004 :  23:00:02  Show Profile
I sail Wood Duck, standard rig fin keel, in 20-25 knots of wind most of the time, esp. spring and fall. I reef the main at 15 knots when solo, wait a bit longer if I have extra ballast aboard. I reef the genoa down to about 70% at 20 knots. At 25 knots I reduce the jib to a scrap and wish I had a second reef point in the main. I am having one put in this winter. The C25 stiffens up at about 20 degrees of heel, but by then, because of its canoe-shaped hull, it is showing big-time weather helm. Only reefing the main will reduce this. The boat will take a surprising amount of punishment, and will continue to handle quite manageably up to about thirty knots. After that the pounding from the seas becomes uncomfortable, even for the indomitable solo sailor.
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 01/22/2004 :  09:55:13  Show Profile
Douglas, that sure is a pretty vessel you have.

I see you have a MOB pole mounted starboard... is that a VHF antenna mounted to port by the lifesling collar ?
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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 01/24/2004 :  14:22:26  Show Profile
Jonathan

I regularly sailed our FK/SR #2459 here on San Francisco Bay in heavy winds with a single reef in the main and an 85 jib. A great combination. At other times I had the 110 and a single reef. They key to comfort is to reduce the mainsail first.

Stu
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