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drttu
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Initially Posted - 02/03/2004 :  17:27:03  Show Profile
Has anyone ever put in a teak-and-holly floor in a Catalina 25? I was just wondering if it worth the effort. Thanks. This is a great site.

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 02/03/2004 :  18:06:42  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
Teak/Holly sole or flooring can be found in the form of a thin plywood. Many of the smaller boats use this. Even the big boys use it. http://www.marine-plywood.us/teakAndHolly.htm
http://www.worldpanel.com/Marineplywoodsintro.htm and so on

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 02/03/2004 :  20:32:48  Show Profile
I think Sail Mag. just did an article on how someone used the teak/holly plywood Doug refers to. But it suggested using a base (MDA?) between the floor and the plywood, which would reduce the already limited head room in a C25. An inch or so reduction isn't much, but it's too much for me when I'm ducking already.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/04/2004 :  08:06:40  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
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<br />I think Sail Mag. just did an article on how someone used the teak/holly plywood Doug refers to. But it suggested using a base (MDA?) between the floor and the plywood, which would reduce the already limited head room in a C25. An inch or so reduction isn't much, but it's too much for me when I'm ducking already.
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Richard -

The article in Sail was referring to MDO -- I've heard of MDF but not MDO. After reading the article and looking into some options, I am considering using just the teak and holly plywood straight to the fiberglass. He sites the uneven-ness of the floor, however I think with the exception of the forward berth and head our sole is pretty darn flat (maybe off a bit by the galley?. He also used 1/2 inch MDO, I think you could get by with 1/4 if you had to use it. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/04/2004 :  09:36:18  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
parkay
cedar closet/sauna planks
vinyl
spray paint
a collage of classic Playboy centerfolds under urathane
I think a sheet of balsa core that was thin (1/4") and glassed over with clear epoxy would look awsome.

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Raskal
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Response Posted - 02/04/2004 :  11:44:23  Show Profile
My 1984 #4603 is one of those traditional interiors where the sole has the raised area to port for the dinette option. I got tired of nearly spraining an ankle on it and when I looked under the bilge board found that the liner sole is raised high enough that it should be possible to lay down an even floor in a couple of ways:

--cut away the whole fiberglass cabin (not head) sole to the settee/galley walls and lay down a flat sole supported by stringers attached to them;

--cut away the raised section to port and use the remaining starboard part to support the wood panel;

--use the raised port section as support and fill the lower sections (galley and starboard walkway) with stringers (least headroom option).

The cause for optimism here is that cutting away the whole sole (even including the head area) and running a new wooden sole supported on stringers and attached to the vertical fiberglass parts looks like it should maintain the structural integrity of the inner liner (the quarterberth is a big support structure).

Rich Kokoska

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 :  14:01:22  Show Profile
Check the archives, I vaguely remember a very handy individual posting his flooring project just as discribed above. I believe he was from Maine or at least along the northeast coast. I believe he posted as Captain something.

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 :  14:53:44  Show Profile
Just an opinion: I know they stink.

As I surf the world of sailboat listings, I often see boats with teak and holy soles.

I dont like the way they show water damage and wear.

If they are not kept-up they make the boat look very worn down below. They also make the interior darker and look smaller.

And being lazy, I don't want the maintenance.

A dirty fiberglass floor looks bad too.

PW

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