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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Initially Posted - 02/05/2004 : 15:33:55

I was trying to compare my lake to the information on Canyon Lake in TX and ended up confusing myself. Cheney does not list a simple acre area instead it list acre ft.Please help me understand:
My lake info says 163,749 acre-feet.
Canyon Tx says it is Size: 8,240 acres.
Is there any correlation between these numbers?
I find it hard to believe Cheney is larger than Canyon.

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tmhansen
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 15:43:05

Can't compare them with that data. One is surface area and one is volumne

acre feet (af) - A quantity of volume of water that covers one acre to a depth of one foot; equal
to 43,560 cubic feet or 325,851 gallons.

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Scott L
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 16:54:54

Apples and Oranges my man.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 16:56:37

Frank - Canyon Lake was formed by damming the Guadalupe River. It is approx. 10 miles long and anywhere from a 1/2 mile to a mile wide. Depth varies (away from shore!) from 40 to 160 feet, although Buzz can tell you where the shallow bars are...

Derek

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 17:03:13

... Buzz can tell you where the shallow bars are ... Derek

You've got THAT right ... 'trees, too!

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Scotd
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 17:24:09

Will any of this information about Angostura Reservoir Help?
Angostura is one of the few large reservoirs in western South Dakota. The lake's crystal waters and strong fishery make it a popular vacation area.
The Angostura Dam was built in 1949 by the Bureau of Reclamation and created more than 5,000 surface acres of water. The average depth is 29 feet and the deepest portion of the pool is 75 feet deep when full. The lake's average summer temperature is 66 degrees fahrenheit.
The reservoir has 36 miles of shoreline and some of the finest sandy beaches in the state. This is a major attraction for many visitors.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 19:02:00

"The lake's average summer temperature is 66 degrees fahrenheit".
Far too cool for me....

I wouldn't even be able to swim the keel...!
Derek

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 20:30:08

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Scotd
 ... and some of the finest sandy beaches in the state...
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Look out Florida--here comes South Dakota!

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 21:33:09

Don Pedro Res. in California is 13,000 surface acre feet, 160 miles of shore line, a little over 2,000,000 acre feet capacity when full and it's hard to find the bottom at 420 feet deep at the deepest and 93 feet under my keel in my slip. I very seldom get to anchor in anything less then 40 feet. In fact I hope to snag a submerged tree or boulder to get any kind to hold on the bottom. This year looks like a good year for water here so the levels can only go up with the big snow melt off the will start in the next two months. Yea!!!

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 22:29:12

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ed Montague
 Don Pedro Res. in California is 13,000 surface acre feet, 160 miles of shore line, a little over 2,000,000 acre feet capacity when full and it's hard to find the bottom at 420 feet deep at the deepest and 93 feet under my keel in my slip. I very seldom get to anchor in anything less then 40 feet. In fact I hope to snag a submerged tree or boulder to get any kind to hold on the bottom. This year looks like a good year for water here so the levels can only go up with the big snow melt off the will start in the next two months. Yea!!!
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Ed ... Wow ... that place sounds NICE ... do you have any photos?

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 22:52:06

Lake Erie is the 12th-largest (area) lake in the world, and is the southernmost, shallowest, warmest, and most biologically productive of the five Great Lakes.

Lake Erie is about 210 miles long, about 57 miles wide, and has a shoreline length of about 871 miles.

The maximum depth is 210 feet. The water surface area is 9,906 square miles and the volume is 116 cubic miles.

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Scotd
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 23:08:54

yes 66 degrees is a might chilly, but just think of diving in at 7 A.M. to wake yourself up.... oh yea what a feeling. Then for the Hot cup of coffee.
But the water sure does feel good in July and August when the temp is 90 to 100+.

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tmhansen
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 01:12:49

Ed we are coming up to stay for the week starting the fourth of July. Any recommendations on which campground we should make reservations at? (I'm sleepin' in the boat, the camp site is for the rest of the clan at this reunion)

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MattL
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 13:29:02

Hi Todd,

Ed is going to go to the nationals in Portland in July, I don't know when he is leaving. I live in Atwater, just East of Ed and sail at much smaller Lake Yosemite. Here is a link to where Ed keeps his boat. If you go to the map he is to the left of the boat ramp in the right hand fork of the marina. It is way cool. The marina has a store and gas, I'm not sure if they have a pump out. The showers are at the campground.
http://www.donpedrolake.com/campFlemMed.html
Hope that helps.
The admrial and I are planning on a trip to Hunington Lake mid July, the 19th sticks in mind. It's a beautiful place and might be nice for you to plan on for your return trip. It is quite a drive up hill at 7 or 8000 feet. Let me know if youd like to join us for that too.

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 13:47:43

Todd, There are two camping areas, Fleming Meadows and Blue Oak. Fleming Meadows is by far the prefered area for closeness to the water. You must realize that your visit will be during the busiest week end of the year. The 4th is on Sunday, so plan on many of the visitors leaving on Monday for home. Monday will be the holiday. Once the crowds leave the lake will be very quiet and you can possibly move to a better camp site if you need to. Anchoring next to shore can be a challange because of the very steep banks, I can help you find the best areas. If necessary, you can use my slip in the marina, which isn't far by water from the camping. We will be with friends with houseboats in a cove in Middle Bay, about 3 1/2 miles from the marina. By all means give me a call for any help and I would love to meet with you. I have become an expert at raising masts.

We monitor channel 72 while on the lake.

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 13:58:03

Although we have to share it with others, our lil' pond out back covers roughly 40 x 10**9 acres and was formed by various weather and tectonic events over the years.

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 14:30:59

Richard, We missed sharing your pond with you and the girls last year at the Rendevous. With the Nationals in Portland we will miss you again.

Keep the great sense of humor, you will need it when those two little cuties start bringing home the boys.

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 15:18:26

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">With the Nationals in Portland we will miss you again.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Ed:

I grew up in Portland and still have lots of family there. As we visit somewhat regular, and haven't been back in a while, there's a chance I may plan the next trip up during the Nationals (sans boat).

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">when those two little cuties start bringing home the boys<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Ouch! In the meantime, I'll try to remain oblivious to that inevitability -- so far so good...

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 12:18:39

Folsom Lake has a maximum volume capacity of 1 million acre-feet. The main body of the lake offers a sailing area about 3 miles across at the widest point. There are two flooded canyons that extend northeast and east of the main part of the lake, these are the North and South forks of the American River. When the pond elevation is at maximum, 466', the North fork is navigable for 10 miles back from the lake, and 5 miles for the South fork. The total shoreline for the lake and river forks is about 100 miles. Water temps range from about 48ºF in mid-winter to 82ºF in mid-summer, and the water is very clean - Folsom is a wonderful lake for swimming in the summertime, which is one of the reasons I keep my boat there instead of in San Francisco Bay. Water depth at the deepest parts near the dam is 225'.
Folsom Lake Marina has slips for about 650 boats, up to a maximum size of 27' x 10' (only a couple of slips are this big). Most of the slips are 22' x 10', and about 10% are 24' x 10' to accomodate Catalina 25-size boats. Cost for a slip last year was $1050, and the marina offers yearly leases only. The marina docks are useable generally from mid-March to the end of October, with all boats required to haul out for the winter when the lake level is reduced for flood control, leaving the docks high and dry on the mud. One of the adverse consequences of these large yearly fluctuations in the water level is that the marina operator can't install water or electric service on the docks, since they move a couple of hundred feet in and out from the shoreline. There is a hose bib at the fuel dock that you can use to fill your boat's water tank, but that is the only water outlet available. The lack of shorepower makes it pretty much a necessity to have a solar panel on the boat, else you will be dragging the battery back and forth to charge it at home. Folsom Lake Marina also offers mast-up dry storage for $650/year, which is what I use. The dry storage lot is fenced and gated, and nice and level, too. I have a good possibility of moving to a pull-through space next month, which will be much nicer and easier than having to back in to my current space when parking the boat after dark. Speaking of darkness, Folsom Lake has a sunrise-to-sunset boating restriction, meaning boaters are supposed to be back in their slips or at anchor for the night by closing time, which is 7:00pm from November-March, and 10:00pm from April-October. This restriction is kind of a pain, as I love to go out sailing at night in mid dummer, when the air has cooled off and there is often a gentle easterly night-breeze blowing down off the hills behind the marina.

South Fork American River at the Salmon Falls Road Bridge. This bridge marks the eastern limit of navigation (for sailboats) in South Fork (June 2003).

Sunset on Folsom Lake, May 2003, "Quiet Time" and "Akuna Matada" rafted up in mid-lake

"Quiet Time" (Catalina 25SK/SR #1205) in a slip at Folsom Lake Marina, March 2003.

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Captain B
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 12:29:23

Folsom Lke looks like a wonderful place.

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Scotd
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 20:00:43

I love the night sailing in August when you can watch the meteor showers. Don't for get the jiffy-pop popcorn.

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Scotd
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 20:02:57

I love the night sailing in August when you can watch the meteor showers. Don't for get the jiffy-pop popcorn.

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