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Oscar
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Initially Posted - 03/08/2004 :  17:14:23  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
I'm posting this again as a separate thread. It got buried at the end of Nynkes story, but I did not want you to miss it. I thought of these because I spotted one in the background of one of Nynkes pictures......

Folks, check this out: (or do a google on "skutsjes") but it's all in Dutch

http://www.de-veenhoop.nl/images/skutsjes.jpg
http://www.skutsjesilen.nl/skutsjes/halvemaen.jpg
http://www.skutsjesilen.nl/skutsjes/leeuwarden.jpg
http://www.devriessails.nl/images/skutsjes.jpg

All Steel, former freighters..... shallow draft...., 60 or so feet, oak lee boards, wooden mast, cotton sails, hemp ropes wooden blocks...tiller (which takes more than one person to manhandle) no winches (and I seem to remember no engines, but that could be wrong....) Once a year racing. 70 or so years now....Syndicates against each other (usually a syndicate represents a village, although many boats are privately owned)...This is hard core. Makes the America's cup look like a bunch of fairies

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250WB#618 Lady Kay on the Chesapeake
Lady Kay IV, Dragonfly 25 # 54 Former C30#618-C250WB#618-C42#76
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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 03/08/2004 :  18:24:08  Show Profile
There are four pictures of Dutch <i>botters</i> in Nic Compton's <i>The World's Best Sailboats in 500 Photos</i>. Very broad, very heavy, and very cool! You certainly couldn't tack or stop one on a dime.

Regarding their sailors, one photo shows a burly guy sitting on the forward port gunwale trimming the fores'l <b>by hand</b> using only a single wrap of the sheet around a very substantial wooden padeye (I'm sure that is not what it's called, but it should give you the visual).
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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 :  07:48:12  Show Profile
Interesting placement of their "whisker pole" and the non-horizontal way its set.

ZI know these are not whisker poles, and that they are running from the tack to the clue. Just thought it interesting in light of Arlyns comments on Frank's thread re. whisker poles.
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PZell
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Response Posted - 03/10/2004 :  12:14:25  Show Profile
If you admire these boats and have some disposable income, take a
look at this site: www.norseboat.com

A really cool boat for lakes and estuaries and shallow bays.
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 03/10/2004 :  18:32:46  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">they are running from the tack to the clue<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Actually, they run from the gunnel to the clew. If you look at the most forward boat you can see that angle better. It they ran from the tack to the clew the sail would not stay winged out.

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