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osmepneo
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Initially Posted - 03/12/2004 :  15:55:08  Show Profile
My new Nissan 9.8 electric start ob comes with about six feet of cable to connect the motor to the battery. I suspect the distance between the ob (port side) and the battery (starboard under the settee) is about 20 feet. Any suggestions on providing power to the engine so that I can use the electric start?

I see several alternatives:

1. Lengthen the cables, cutting off the battery connector and splicing in a section of cable, and splicing the battery connectors to the other end.

2. Install a second battery, in the quarter birth area, running the cable there, and then running additional cables to the existing battery.

How have others addressed this situation?

Don Peet, C25/250 2004-2005 National Association Commodore
The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 :  16:52:43  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I have an internal cable that is run from the back of my Battery switch in the galley along the hull to two long brass studs that protrude both in the sail locker and through to the fuel locker. They each have four nuts, two to position the stud from both sides of the fiberglass and one for each side to hold the cable on. That internal cable is connected to the posts in the sail locker, the engine cable is run through my scupper and connects to the posts in the fuel locker. It is easy to connect.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 :  19:26:20  Show Profile
In our use, is it necessary to have a separate battery for starting?

There have been many discussions concerning using a separate dedicated starting battery for the outboard and another set for everything else, but I would think using one (or two) deep cycle house batteries would be enough for both the outboard and the boat.

What do you think?

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 :  20:49:36  Show Profile
Don,

From my perspective I don't really see a need for daysailing for two batteries. One should work well for both the ob and the rest of the boat. Although I'm interested in what others have to say concerning this question.

Frank,

I'm intreques with your brass posts on both sides of the sail locker. that would simplifiy installing the electrical start cables. My concern on the 1980 modles, the gas tank is in the sail locker, and I think I would be concerned with gas vapors accumlating in the sail locker and a spark from the ob cables sparking and <i>osmepneo</i> going bye-bye, along with me. Is this a valid concern? if so maybe the best thing to do would be to make my own starter cables, 20 feet or so, and run them directly from the ob, to the battery.

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lcharlot
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Antigua and Barbuda
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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 :  22:09:05  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by osmepneo</i>
<br />From my perspective I don't really see a need for daysailing for two batteries. One should work well for both the ob and the rest of the <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I would agree with this, one battery is enough for daysailing, unless you are running power-hungry devices like radar, microwave oven (from an inverter), or a 500 watt "big boooom-boooom" stereo amplifier (like the kids put in their cars nowadays). A 32 watt solar panel left tied to the boom during the week when the boat is not in use will keep the battery topped up and always ready for your weekend jaunts.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 :  22:46:16  Show Profile
To the first question, I run the Honda cables through a boot and hole in the transom to two stud terminals near the back of the quarterberth (on the side of the cockpit well). From there, I ran a heavy-gauge cable to an on-off battery switch in the galley (where I can reach it from the companionway), and on to the battery well under the starboard settee (to a single battery). To install or remove the motor, I have to crawl back in the quaterberth and remove two wing nuts, but I normally only do it twice a year. I turn the switch off when I leave the boat.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 :  22:58:33  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by osmepneo</i>
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Frank,

I'm intreques with your brass posts on both sides of the sail locker. that would simplifiy installing the electrical start cables. My concern on the 1980 modles, the gas tank is in the sail locker, and I think I would be concerned with gas vapors accumlating in the sail locker and a spark from the ob cables sparking and <i>osmepneo</i> going bye-bye, along with me. Is this a valid concern? if so maybe the best thing to do would be to make my own starter cables, 20 feet or so, and run them directly from the ob, to the battery.
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My tank's vent/fill cap is inches away from the posts. I believe the trick is to have the master power off before attaching or detaching, (or lift the tank out of the way). While connected I don't think there is an issue.

If you make your own they still only need to run to the back of the battery switch. As a lake sailor I have two batteries and a permanent charger. My charger is connected to the back of the battery switch too, to the direct leads from the batteries. The back side of our panels are a wealth of opportunity.



This is a picture I took to plan my charger installation, it was easier to stare at this rather than be upside down in the sail locker.

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