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 OOH, My aching back, or darn that Honda
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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 03/12/2004 :  16:46:15  Show Profile
I just picked up my 108 lb Honda by myself from the bed of my truck and placed it on my stand. Gotta get some Advil, and get my butt back into the gym. My 52 year old body can't do this stuff like it used to.
I'm jealous of you folks who are getting the new 80 lb 4 stroke Tohatsu mentioned on the other link

Frank Gloss
Formerly 89WK/TR
85 Ericson 32-3 shoal draft "Molto Bene"

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 :  20:51:30  Show Profile
Aw, shucks, I thought the darn the honda meant trouble starting it. Glasd that's not the issue.

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 03/13/2004 :  01:11:15  Show Profile
That's what I thought this was too!
I've been wondering lately if someone had installed an electric start in the Honda 8 and would elaborate on how much it costs and how well it works???? It seems I have looked on the Honda website and not found a retro kit to make it so. Anyone out there who has done this retro?

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/13/2004 :  07:44:25  Show Profile
No, the Honda causes a brief pressure for a millisecond on my index finger every time I want to start it.
I must have gotten a good one
My back feels OK this morning from lifting it

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mmac
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Response Posted - 03/13/2004 :  09:53:48  Show Profile
I have the same engine so knew what Frank was talking about.
BTW Frank, I'm interested in hearing about your new motor mount. I just bought the same one. How did the installation go? Maybe I'll wait to hear how well it works with our engines before I put mine on the boat.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/13/2004 :  18:19:58  Show Profile
Hey Mike,
The installation went well.
Here's what I did: I enlarged the holes in the mount so I could use 3/8" stainless carriage bolts instead of 5/16". I used three bolts per side. I mounted the bracket lower than the previous Garhauer mount as the Garelick doesn't go down as far. I cut out a piece of Starboard as a backing plate to go between the mount and the transom on the exterior of the boat, and another piece for the inside of the boat. I also squeezed in some epoxy putty between the boat liner and the transom so that space couldn't compress as I tightened the bolts.
I installed a Marinco trolling motor plug for the electrical wire for my Electric start Honda.
I want to lower the motor some more so I'm planning to remount the black plastic motor mount board lower on the bracket. I may even lower the whole bracket another notch. I'm looking at modifying the lifting bracket's mounting hole so as to have lower travel. I'm doing this as my extra long shaft motor still came out of the water in heavy following seas in the Keys a couple of weeks ago.
So I guesse my best advice is to mount the bracket as low as you can, even if you have to patch some existing holes in your transom. You will be glad you did.
Good luck

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mmac
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Response Posted - 03/13/2004 :  23:54:16  Show Profile
Frank,
Thanks for the tips. I know this topic's been worked over pretty hard on this forum. Did you have any problems raising or lowering the engine?


I've been to Key West a few times on government business and love the place. I won't say that I'm jealous of your trip. I'm glad you got to enjoy the Keys the way they should be visited--from the water

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/14/2004 :  06:40:05  Show Profile
Mike,
I stay away from Key West. I sail mostly the middle and upper Keys.

With the heavy duty Salt Water model of the Garelick bracket and the 108 lb motor it's pretty well in balance, in fact you have to push down harder than you pull up. this is evident when you have to release the latching handle to get the motor to raise. I have learned to just put my heel on the handle and push down and towards the rear simultaneously to get it to release. It's more technique than brute force.
The Garhauer bracket is completely inadequate for a heavy Honda.

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