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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 03/17/2004 :  20:29:13  Show Profile
After work yesterday one of my co-workers who owns a C270 asked me to go out with him as the winds were about 15 knots. He says that he can't single hand it in those winds.
I liked the boat, but I like our C25's better.
It is far easier to single hand a C25. He just had two big cabin top winches, and you have to use these for both main and jib halyards, clutch them off, and then you can use them for your jib sheets. You can't access them, and use the wheel steering, at least not in a stronger wind. You can't reach both. I recommended an auto pilot, but I think that auto pilots for wheel steered boats are expensive.
When we did get a gust, the boat did not respond as quick, it didn't have the YEEHAA factor that our boats do. I guesse that's a function of it's greater weight.
I did like the cabin top traveler system. I'm learning more how to use one, and it had a great system for that.
Doug says that the ladies do like the walk in bathroom though.
All in all, I am still really happy with a C25, as I can trailer it, camp out on it, still entertain the ladies, and comfortably single hand it.
I will hook up my new tiller pilot soon though, and single handing will be easier.
For my purposes the C25 is still the best boat out there.
If I lived on the coast, and had access to a slip, and won the lottery, yes, a bigger Catalina would be great.
I do think that as I learn more about sailing in my third season, I'm kinda pleased that I can compare two boats at least semi intelligently. Or maybe it was the beer goggles I had on.
Frank Gloss
Formerly 89WK/TR
85 Ericson 32-3 shoal draft "Molto Bene"
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 03/17/2004 :  21:35:20  Show Profile
Y'all done good, Frank!
Derek
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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 03/18/2004 :  00:29:48  Show Profile
Hi, Frank. I'd have to agree with you 100% on the C25 being more fun. It is both sailable and trailerable as you say and that is the defining characteristic of our boats. The tillerpilot is one of the best add-ons I've made to our boat as it allows me to point it west away from San Diego and go up on the bow and relax. as in "way cool" (what my students say at school). Of course, I always wear my harness/life vest(self inflating) and hook in somewhere at all times while singlehanding.
BTW, check your profile...it says you own a C22 and "will be getting a C25 soon" Might want to edit that
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/18/2004 :  06:05:17  Show Profile
Hey Gary and Susan
Thanks for the heads up on my profile.
The lake I sail on is so small I could swim to the side if I had to so I haven't yet set up lifelines etc.
If I ever single hand in the Keys I sure will.
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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 03/19/2004 :  23:30:15  Show Profile
We have a 270 in our sailing club, and the owner actually had a custom trailer built for it. He has trailered it a few times to San Francicso Bay, and I think to Lake Tahoe, but the cost for the boat and trailer together was close to $70K, and the mast is so much longer and heavier than a C-25 mast that he needs a really massive A-frame system to do the mast raising. And you know something? The C-270 doesn't feel that much bigger inside than my C-25 Mk. IV. I think if I was going to spend $70K on a sailboat, I would be looking at C-34's or C-36's for my "big" boat, and maybe have a 1986-1989 Catalina 22 wing keel for trailering to lakes or other Club cruises like to the San Juans. Frank Gloss hits it right on: the Catalina 25 is probably one of the best all-around trailerable sailboats ever built, at least in the "coastal cruiser" class. For around $8000 to $10000 - sometimes even less - you can get a 1977-1985 boat with an outboard and trailer, and have almost as much performance and "creature comforts" for boat camping as a Catalina 27, which isn't technically a "trailerable" boat anyway, having a beam greater than 8'-6".
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