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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 03/30/2004 :  06:27:57  Show Profile
When I left the Keys after my 3 week trip all I did was disconnect the gas line, and didn't flush the motor with fresh water. That was about 3 weeks ago.

Me bad.

So yesterday I decided that I should flush it out. I have the motor mounted on a 2 x 12 under an overhang. Placed a garbage can of water under the motor. Since I didn't have the battery hooked up I had to pull start it. (I'm glad it wasn't a Yamaha where you have to take it half apart to get to the pull start.)

After pumping the bulb it took me three pulls to start the motor.

Damn, I thought it was supposed to start on the first pull
Frank Gloss
Formerly 89WK/TR
85 Ericson 32-3 shoal draft "Molto Bene"
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lcharlot
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Antigua and Barbuda
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Response Posted - 03/30/2004 :  08:17:42  Show Profile
All small outboards - not just Hondas - seem to me to be very sensitive to the freshness and quality of the gas you put in them. Whenever I have just filled the tank with fresh gas, the motor always starts first or second pull. The older the gas, the more finicky the motor gets. Last month, I wanted to take a short cruise, the first one in three months or so, and the motor would not start until I had drained and re-primed the carb three times. Must have been moisture condensed in the float bowl. Lesson learned: it's a good idea to tun the outboard for a few minutes every time you visit the boat, even if it's a "work on the boat day" and you don't plan on taking the boat out of the slip.
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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 03/30/2004 :  16:09:46  Show Profile
Ya' mean I wasted 20 bu buying a new ob, when all I had to do was change gas every time out!
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Steve Kostanich
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Response Posted - 03/31/2004 :  11:47:04  Show Profile
The shop that does the service work on my Merc Sailpower tells me that the quality of the gas we now get is lousey for our small OB's. Two years ago I thought something serious had gone wrong with my OB, and it was just bad, spoiled, or whatever, gas. A fresh tank and everything was back to normal.

Steve Kostanich C-25 1119 Equinox sr/sk
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deastburn
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Response Posted - 03/31/2004 :  14:49:29  Show Profile
Here's a new variation on "won't start!"

When I had the boat hauled last Fall, the marine co. removed the motor (Honda 9.9)and placed it on its side next to the boat's keel. It was a week before I had time to put it on its winter stand and get it under cover. I tried to run it to clean out the water jacket, but the motor would not even turn over. Not even with the electric start!

Guess what: the marine co. had placed the motor on its WRONG side, and oil had leaked from the crankcase into the cylinders. Once there it stayed (until removed with a syringe).

So, it really means it when it says to place the motor only on THIS side...
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/31/2004 :  20:17:22  Show Profile
I was actually being a little sarcastic when I was complaining about taking 3 pulls to start my motor after a lay up, and transport in the back of my truck, and a non primed carb.
I'll take three pulls anyday in those conditions.
When it is hooked up on the boat it barely takes a touch to the electric starter to get Mr. Moto all fired up.
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