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mmac
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Initially Posted - 04/03/2004 :  00:32:07  Show Profile
Mara has new dome cabin lights and red/white florescent light over the table thanks to e-mail help from Leon and onboard assistance from Jim.

The project started when the old florescent quit working, the light in the head had water in it and the v-berth light crumbled apart. I tossed out the nonfunctioning florescent and wired in a new one. After several tries using different types of connnectors and soldering, the darn thing wouldn't work.
Jim came onboard and showed me how to troubleshoot with a meter. We discovered that the hot wire was dead forward of the galley light. No wonder those lights didn't work! I ran a new wire inside the cabin from the galley light forward, following the suggestions of Leon and some of the other posts you guys have made on the topic.

Phase II is rewiring the mast. I'm going to put in a new bow(steaming) light with a halogen deck light and an anchor light at the masthead. I only have two good wires at the deck connectors, so Jim and I are thinking about using some triplex to the spreaders and duplex to the masthead and drilling down into the cabin. Any other suggestions would be appreciated

Mike in Sunny San Diego
Mara #1372 '79 fk sr SD/MB Fleet 7.
"All I ask is for a tall ship and a star to steer her by."

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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 :  10:29:16  Show Profile  Visit Scotd's Homepage
I hope that this may help you with the mast wiring.

This picture is after cleaning out the old connector and old wiring that is embeded in the fiberglass. I then drilled into the cabin; right into the wall that my fold down table connects too. I removed lots of screws and trim to see the hole.


I should have planned ahead and put 4 wires in. Maybe planned for some deck lighting.




I did not get any pictures of the finished results, I had 5200 all over the place and did not want to get it on the camera.

Finished

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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 :  21:32:46  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
OK, here's what I am thinking

30 feet of duplex wire to the top of the mast for the anchor light

25 feet of triplex wire to the spreaders for the steaming light and deck light.

Don't know how to fish the wires.

We'll tie the 2 negatives together inside the mast and run a 4 wire deck plug (anchor, steaming, deck and neg). We'll use crimp on connectors and either shrink tubing or liquid electrical tape followed by real electrical tape.

We'll drill through the deck and pull 4 wire cable all the way from the deck plug back to the switch panel. So we need about 15 - 20 feet of 4 wire cable. This will be run along the port side shelf in the cabin, behind the stove and sink, and into the switch panel area.

Once there, I may need some basic hook up wire to run between the switches and the 4 wire cable.

I can bring crimp on connectors, liquid tape, tape, tools, and hook up wire. You need to bring the 2, 3 and 4 wire cables and the stuff for fishing through the mast. See if you can get shrink tubing. I'll bring my torch.

We have to have the mast down for this so if you get there before me, drop the mainsail and the boom. Bring some 5200 or boatlife and rags for clean up.

What time you coming?

I will be there about 10:30 - 11 and work on this for a while but I want to go sailing, too. Hopefully we can get the deck plug, inside wiring done in a few hours.

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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 :  21:34:13  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
If you ever think you are going to run lines aft, try to get one of those block mounts (like shown in the picture).

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mmac
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Response Posted - 04/04/2004 :  00:23:37  Show Profile
Scot,
Thanks for the photos. That looks pretty much like what we are planning to do.

Jim,
Sounds good to me. I'll hit WM on the way to the boat. What block in what picture?

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Response Posted - 04/04/2004 :  00:59:20  Show Profile  Visit Scotd's Homepage
Some People put wire ties about every 2 to 3 feet on the cable; Don't cut the ends and stager them every other direction. This will stop the Cable from banging in the mast when the boat rocks.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/04/2004 :  11:16:37  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
excellent idea on the wire ties. Mike - get some of those too!

I am talking about the "dinner plate" under the mast that you use to hold all the little blocks for running lines to deck organizers and then aft to triple clutches.

See you later this morning.

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