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Tony Partain
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Initially Posted - 04/03/2004 : 10:55:09

After taking delivery of my C250 wk tall rig last week I have found a couple of items that need attention. The traveler is very sticky under sail it very difficult to move, its also hard to move without a load on it. What do I need to look for to determine if it needs to be cleaned and lubed or replaced?

Second the lower gudgeon is missing the bushing and the rudder is moving around in what is left of the gudgeon. Is the gudgeon thru bolted? If so, can it be accessed from the battery compartment? The previous owner supplied me with a new gudgeon when I took delivery of the boat. Also can this be done with the boat in the water?

Other wise this boat is in great condition for a 1997 and a blast to sail. Last weekend we had it out on Klamath Lake here in Oregon and had a fantastic time. One thing that surprised me was how fast this thing goes downwind. We were out in about 17 kts and surfing down the waves was pretty cool. We had in the first reef and the 110 jib up. After trying to broach this boat we found out that it will pretty easy!!!

It was fun testing the limits of this boat.

Tony Partain
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Edited by - Tony Partain on 04/03/2004 11:32:06

arlingva
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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 : 12:49:18

Yes the gudgeon is thru bolted and it can be accesed from the battery compartment. In fact you can take out the entire lines between the aft berth and the battery comparment. May make replacement easier.

Bill

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 : 16:50:43

I've got a '97 tall rig too. What hull # is yours?

We replaced our gungeons a few years ago when we upgraded our rudder. The original gungeons allowed the pintles to move around (made a very annoying noise when heard from the back bunk), but the new ones have a nylon insert (bushing?) to keep the pintle from having so much play.

If you haven't got the 3rd generation rudder I highly recommend the upgrade since it helps a lot with the rounding up problem. If you search the archives you'll find LOTS to read on the rudder issue. Just keep in mind the WB rudder & WK rudders are different (or at least I think so).

congrats on the new (to you) boat!

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Waterboy
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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 : 18:08:52

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The traveler is very sticky under sail it very difficult to move, its also hard to move without a load on it.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I wasn't aware any year 250 came with a traveler. Is yours stock? Is that something those of us without could upgrade? I'm curious where it's mounted and what type of hardware is used.

As for stickiness ... some dry lube perhaps?

I've found the traveler useful on other boats (J24) to spill wind from the upper part of the main.

Any chance of a picture?

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 : 18:16:25

Looks good, congratulations. Yes the WB and WK rudders are different. (WK is a foot longer than the WB) If this is a new boat? You'll have the 3rd gen with it, and it will be most adequate.

It's obvious how much higher the WK sits on the trailer vs the WB. Out of curiosity, have you measured? I think 14' is the legal limit, and I have run into 13'6 max bridges, which are then posted with copious amounts of signage.....

The WB with the mast high on the stern rest, to make it easy to get in and out of the cabin, is right at 12'

Oscar

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Tony Partain
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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 : 18:50:16

My hull number is 271. I believe that the rudder is original. It worked ok in pretty heavy winds of 17 knots+, I didn't have a problem with it rounding up. The nylon bushings sound like great upgrade. Its good to be in the Club!!

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Tony Partain
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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 : 18:53:14

Waterboy I will be sailing tomorrow and will take the digital camera and snap a few pictures for you. I'm pretty sure that the traveler is factory.

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Tony Partain
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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 : 19:01:29

Oscar I measured the tallest point before bringing it home and its 12'6". The max legal height is 13'6". I was amazed how easy this thing was to tow. I guess with the weight of the keel keeping the center of gravity low makes a huge difference. The worst thing was the head wind taking my gas mileage down from 13mpg to 8mpg. But the Excursion did a great job on the hills. Towing up I-5 over Mt Shasta I never got under 50 mile per hour on the 6% grades.

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ssteakley
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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 : 19:53:46

Use Harken Sail-Kote available in a spray can from west marine to lube the traveler and all other blocks, sheeves etc. I agree with the others, order the 3rd generation rudder now from catalina,
Steve Steakley

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 : 20:38:08

Traveler is standard (possibly after a certain hull number) on the wing....the WB has the fixed CB control line/mainsheet piece.

Tony, 8mpg sounds about right. My 'Burban goes from 15 to 10.

Oscar
250WB#618 Lady Kay in Venice Inlet, Florida USA.

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 : 21:55:27

Waterboy,
Here's what the traveler looks like on a 250wk (mine's hull #270). The mainsheet's not there because the mast is off. Stuck on the hard until the end of the month.

Edited by - Bubba on 04/03/2004 22:01:04

Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 04/03/2004 : 23:21:53

Greg, the traveler issue is an interesting one and there have been numerous discussions on it over the years. Here's the deal.

Wing keel owners seem split down the middle about its value which leaves me thinking, why go to the trouble and expense.

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