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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 04/25/2004 : 20:23:14

Hi there,
Like lots of folks I dream of having a larger sailboat to retire with and go sailing to the Caribbean.
I just got a price list from a Broker in Charleston.
Here's some new boat prices-base price, add shipping, commissioning outfitting, tax, yadda yadda
Catalina 25 WB 28,817
C-36 Mk II 133,868
C-350 136,870
C-270 64,605 (this surprised the heck out of me)
Island Packet 370 262,132

No new boats in my future

Frank Gloss
Formerly 89WK/TR
85 Ericson 32-3 shoal draft "Molto Bene"

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 04/25/2004 : 20:43:15

How 'bout a new Hinckley Sou'wester 51? When I dream.......

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 04/25/2004 : 21:15:08

I think prices like those are what make a used C25 so popular!
Derek

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Raskal
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Response Posted - 04/26/2004 : 17:49:13

But if you want to have some fun with this look up used boats on Yachtworld.com with parameters such as "length=51 feet; price=$5,000"; or "year=earlier than 1930". You'll be amazed, amused, appalled, or even pleased by what you might find. I was noticing a lot of the yachts in the "steel hull" category are actually very affordable, perhaps because no one is really looking for them...

Rich Kokoska

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 04/26/2004 : 17:57:29

Shhh don't tell everyone......I'm stranded in hotel rooms for hours and hours. When I have a particularly long layover I'll bring my laptop and spend forever doing just what you described. You'd be amazed indeed what your can find.....ex:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/uk/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units=Feet&checked_boats=1197151&

Oscar
250WB#618 Lady Kay on the Chesapeake

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 04/26/2004 : 21:26:26

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Oscar
 ...You'd be amazed indeed what your can find.....<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Wow! 3-1/2" thick oak planking, 565 hp, 5" stainless shaft, 70" bronze prop, 4000 gal. fuel tank, $28,500... If I could afford the 4000 gallons,...

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 04/26/2004 21:31:38

Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 04/26/2004 : 21:43:49

Hmmm ... 80' x $/slipfoot x 12 = about a $Kazillion/year.

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 04/26/2004 : 22:02:16

There's always Hunter, they come fully equipped.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 04/27/2004 : 10:02:26

Yeah, but with that much room you don't need a house. Oh no, the Admiral is giving me the look......

Oscar
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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 04/27/2004 : 21:43:36

There's a big ex-US Army (??) tug near me in Norwalk, CT, that's refurbished and set up as a livaboard. The name is The General, and it's docked right outside a very nice waterside restaurant. Very classy!

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thacket3
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Response Posted - 04/28/2004 : 09:39:12

Last night I went to the port here in Ft. Lauderdale to see the aircraft carrier that came for the week. I was surprised to see a new "dream" tied up at the dock.

http://www.superyachtsociety.com/felicitawest/default.cfm

She's 211' long and has a main mast that towered over the eleven story buildign she was berthed in front of.

I've found a new dream. Problem is, even if I win the lottery, I don't think I can afford her.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 04/28/2004 : 18:13:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The name is The General<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Maybe she said something like "me or that thing"......

Oscar
250WB#618 Lady Kay on the Chesapeake

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 04/28/2004 : 22:50:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by thacket3
 

She's 211' long and has a main mast that towered over the eleven story buildign she was berthed in front of.

I've found a new dream. Problem is, even if I win the lottery, I don't think I can afford her.

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I'm sorry, but YYYYYYYYUCK!!!!!!! Looks like a Mac 211X!

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 : 07:36:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Mac 211X<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Maybe they can put a couple of those in the davits.....

Oscar
250WB#618 Lady Kay on the Chesapeake

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 : 11:03:17

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">
No new boats in my future
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Frank

Why does it have to be new? .. ... There are plenty of used boats that might fall into your price range. Half the fun is fixing her up anyway. (Then again the other half is dreaming of a day when you don't have to fix her up)

There's always the home mortgage option - just live aboard part time out of the year.

dw

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 : 11:15:57

Sticker shock is everywhere! And after six years I'm very comfortable with my "little" 25 footer. When I retire I'll find a way to get it to winter home and if not I'll find a place that has daily rentals. I don't have any (significant) interest in making the jump. In fact I'd consider going the other way if I could find the right boat . . . But I won't go there.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 : 21:26:05

As much fun as a Catalina 22 could be, I think the logical step down is an air-conditioned house boat.

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 : 22:03:11

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
 As much fun as a Catalina 22 could be, I think the logical step down is an air-conditioned house boat.
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How 'bout a little "tug", like a Nordic or American? Salty, roomy, seaworthy, and kinda cool!

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seastream
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Response Posted - 05/01/2004 : 22:50:31

Is the C270 a water ballast?

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 05/01/2004 : 23:20:50

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by seastream
 Is the C270 a water ballast?
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No.

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reuben
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Response Posted - 05/02/2004 : 18:52:27

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I've found a new dream.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I don't know. A lot of headaches can hide in 211 feet. Less may, after all, be more.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/02/2004 : 19:23:48

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by reuben
 ...A lot of headaches can hide in 211 feet...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Nah! You have PEOPLE to handle them. The Donald's yacht (quite a bit longer than 211' which he had to sell a number of years ago) was managed by a VP who lived in town here. The yacht was anchored off our shore for a few weeks after he bought it. It had been up in Maine getting a complete re-fit, including the new gold and marble baths (not heads--baths). A crew of 20-somethings were shining it up, including the two Donzis that were berthed in the boathouse built into the stern. (Davits?? We don need no steenking davits!)

In the words of P.K. Wrigley (regarding the cost of owning his yacht), "If you have to ask, you can't afford it."

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skipn809
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Response Posted - 05/03/2004 : 09:55:16

We have the sister ship to the 211 here on Mark Twain Lake. Since she can't get under the bridges either, she has to sail the same 5 mile pool as the rest of us.

The owners seem like nice enough folks, although they speak with a bit of an accent-- kinda hard ta unnerstan. Now that I see where the boat was build, it makes sense. Everyone suspected they were probably from another country, like Des Moines or the U.P. of Michigan.

Edited by - skipn809 on 05/03/2004 09:57:12

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