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John J.
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Initially Posted - 05/10/2004 : 17:41:59

Here's a question for you tall rig owners. When I raise the main to the top of the mast, the boom will end up above the "slot opening" where the sail slugs and the gooseneck are inserted. Is this normal?

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dave holtgrave
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Response Posted - 05/10/2004 : 17:50:11

could be.
put some downhaul on and see where it ends up
dave holtgrave
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 05/10/2004 : 20:07:40

I'd measure the luff of the main and see what you get... I recall from prior discussions here that the tall rig carries it's boom lower than the standard. You may have a standard rig sail on a tall rig mast.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/10/2004 : 20:07:52

What is the luff measurement of your mains'l?

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matsche
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Response Posted - 05/10/2004 : 21:15:55

The boom on my tall rig rest below the opening, about a foot or so off the deck. It's difficult to see from my picture, but the openning (kerf?) is located right beside the cunningham grommet and just above the halyard cleat. Like Clam said, it may be a standard sized main. Does your boat have a bimini top? It's possible the P.O. did that to allow the bimini to clear.

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 05/10/2004 : 21:36:31

No it's not normal, the boom should be below the kerf where the sail slugs are inserted into the mast track. I agree that you might have either a standard rig main, or one that was intentionally cut in order to increase boom clearance. I don't think your setup is all that good since in the event of a halyard failure your boom could fly off the mast.

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 05/11/2004 : 00:06:27

The good news is that you have room for a bimini! I agree that you probably have a SR sail on a TR mast -- the difference in sail luff is 2 feet. To keep your boom from falling out, put a stopper in the kerf -- you can get one at West Marine or the like.

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John J.
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Response Posted - 05/11/2004 : 05:01:51

My first guess was that I may have a standard sail on a tall rig. There are a couple of stoppers in the track that can be positioned wherever I want to put them. One tightens with a wing nut, the other with a screwdriver. If I put on some downhaul it takes the goose neck barely above the opening(kerf?). There is room for one of the stoppers below that. Yes, there is room for the bimini, which is a good thing. We were hanging out on the boat this weekend,doing a little tinkering and enjoying a few cold beverages. It was in the mid-eighties here in S.E Indiana and by about noon it was becoming pretty hot and uncomfortable. I decided to try on the bimini for the first time,and with the pop top up the boat instantly becane cool and airy and a downright fine place to spend the afternoon.

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 05/11/2004 : 15:40:30

If you have a tall rig, the only truly viable way to have a workable bimini is to somehow raise the boom. I have Capri 25 mainsail on order, which has a shorter luff and will allow me to use my new bimini.

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Brooke

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Response Posted - 05/11/2004 : 23:58:34

I have to agree with the other wise skippers. It sounds like you have a standard rig sail. If you're not a racer, that's not a terrible thing. After several bumps on my forehead, I've often thought about a shorter main. I have a tall rig with a dodger and bimini. The distance between the boom and the dodger is only an inch or two. (too close for my liking) So, my dodger is only put on in the early spring and late fall. I really like the look, but with it installed I can't easily raise the pop top.

In addition to putting a stopper in the sail track above the kerf, you could also consider some of those nifty mast gates. I purchased them a year ago and it's one of the best and most inexpensive things I've done to her.

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barmstro
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Response Posted - 05/12/2004 : 03:46:21

indyjim Where did you get mast gates? I tried to make some but they don't work well. (poor craftmanship)

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/12/2004 : 04:42:35

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by barmstro
 ...Where did you get mast gates? I tried to make some but they don't work well...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Bob,

The source for the mast gates is Joe Martinek and his contact info (joemartinek@starband.net) can be found at the bottom of the "Links" page on this website.

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John J.
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Response Posted - 05/12/2004 : 05:15:47

What are mast gates?

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/12/2004 : 06:26:49

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John J.
 What are mast gates?
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John,

Mast gates are used to close up the slug slot on the mast after the main sail has been bent on. With the slot closed, the sail is allowed to fall all the way down to the boom which makes reefing and stowing the sail easier.

The picture is from a C25 Tech Tip titled [url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/tech/tech25/snkslot.html"]Mast Slot Plates[/url] by Bill Holcomb.

Edited by - dlucier on 05/12/2004 06:31:16

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