Association Forum - Outboard Reverse

Assn Members Area · Join

Home.

Association Forum

Ships Store

Cruising

Racing

Technical Tips

Photo Gallery - New

Boat Search - Updated

Manuals & Brochures

Swap Meet

Links

Officer Flag Line & Staff

Bylaws & Constitution

Members Area

Join the Association

Notice:
The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.

Association Forum

Username:	Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

All Forums

Catalina/Capri 25/250 Sailor's Forums

Catalina 25 Specific Forum

Outboard Reverse

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Author

Topic

falco_esq
1st Mate

Member Avatar

USA
60 Posts

Initially Posted - 05/23/2004 : 20:35:55

Hello again. I seem to remember someone else having this problem, but I can't find the topic. When I **** it into reverse, my motor jumps out of the water like it wants to go and run up on shore. Also, when I am reverse, it just doesn't go anywhere. Suggestions?
Jason

Jason
INDIANAPOLIS

Edited by - on

Brooke Willson
Admiral

Members Avatar

USA
983 Posts

Response Posted - 05/23/2004 : 20:52:05

It sounds like the tilt lock isn't engaged. The motor hasn't been pushed down into the vertical position far enough to engage the lock, and then when you shift it into reverse, it's being pulled up out of the water.

You might want to edit your post to say "when I SHIFT it into reverse . . . "

Brooke

Edited by - on

dlucier
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
7583 Posts

Response Posted - 05/23/2004 : 20:57:19

Jason,

What size motor and prop do you have?

As for the motor jumping when put into reverse, this is somewhat normal depending on how much play or spring tension is in your outboard bracket, but some jumping can be expected with a retractable mount.

What do you mean when you say it doesn't go anywhere in reverse? Do you mean that its slow or literally doesn't go anywhere?

I generally don't use that much throttle in reverse and my boat seems to back up nicely.

Edited by - on

falco_esq
1st Mate

Members Avatar

USA
60 Posts

Response Posted - 05/23/2004 : 21:04:23

Ha! That was funny. Oops. When I SHIFT!

The tilt lock? I don't even know what that is!

I have a Yamaha 9.9 motor. When I shift, the motor jerks up, the prop spins, but I go NOWHERE. WHat is the tilt lock? This leads into another question I have. I can tilt the motor up to get it out of the water when under sail right? Still haven't gotten that far.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Brooke Willson
 It sounds like the tilt lock isn't engaged. The motor hasn't been pushed down into the vertical position far enough to engage the lock, and then when you shift it into reverse, it's being pulled up out of the water.

You might want to edit your post to say "when I SHIFT it into reverse . . . "

Brooke
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Edited by - on

Tony Dillon
Navigator

Members Avatar

USA
168 Posts

Response Posted - 05/23/2004 : 21:19:17

I have an 8hp Yamaha, but my owners manual shows the Yamaha 9.9 also. There is a tilt lock release lever on the Starboard side of the 9.9 that you release by putting it in the up position. It is located just under the motor head just above the motor mount bracket. So it should be pressed down for the lock position.

The owners manual says for tilting the motor back down:
"1. Turn the tilt lock lever to the locked position. Then, slightly tilt up the engine.
2. Tilt down the engine slow to its home position."

Hope this helps.

Edited by - on

falco_esq
1st Mate

Members Avatar

USA
60 Posts

Response Posted - 05/23/2004 : 21:21:46

OWNERS MANUAL? Wow. I would love to get one of those!! Thanks. I will check this out tomorrow.

Jason

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Tony Dillon
 I have an 8hp Yamaha, but my owners manual shows the Yamaha 9.9 also. There is a tilt lock release lever on the Starboard side of the 9.9 that you release by putting it in the up position. It is located just under the motor head just above the motor mount bracket. So it should be pressed down for the lock position.

The owners manual says for tilting the motor back down:
"1. Turn the tilt lock lever to the locked position. Then, slightly tilt up the engine.
2. Tilt down the engine slow to its home position."

Hope this helps.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Edited by - on

Tony Dillon
Navigator

Members Avatar

USA
168 Posts

Response Posted - 05/23/2004 : 21:26:23

Jason,
I'll scan and e-mail you some of the choice pages from my manual when I get to work tomorrow. My engine is a 96, but most of the material should be similar.

Edited by - on

Leon Sisson
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1893 Posts

Response Posted - 05/23/2004 : 21:29:58

Jason,

On the Yamaha 9.9HP 4-stroke outboard, there's supposed to be a stainless steel rod, 8mm diameter, maybe 17cm long, with a black plastic clip molded on one end in one of the several sets of holes near the aft lower end of the motor mount clamp. That is the trim pin, which also is what the reverse tilt lock engages. If it's not installed, your motor will kick up out of the water in reverse. If your trim pin is missing for some reason, a 5/16"x6" stainless steel bolt and nylock nut will work as a jury rig -- just don't crank down on the nut, only engage the nylock leaving the bolt free to spin, or gently use a wingnut and lockwasher.

To tilt the motor up out of the water, first disengage the tilt lock down by pressing down the small white thumb lever under the front carrying handle of the motor just above the motor mount clamp screw handles. After tilting the motor, engage the up-latch on the stbd side of the motor mount clamp near the tilt pivot axis.

I suggest you study the owner's manual for you engine. You may find it enlightening.

-- Leon Sisson

Edited by - on

dlucier
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
7583 Posts

Response Posted - 05/23/2004 : 21:35:17

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by falco_esq
 ...I have a Yamaha 9.9 motor.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

What year?

Go the [url="http://www.yamaha-motor.com"]Yamaha website[/url] and under Parts and Service select "View Owner's Manuals". You should find your owner's manual and then simply print it out.

Edited by - dlucier on 05/23/2004 21:40:46

falco_esq
1st Mate

Members Avatar

USA
60 Posts

Response Posted - 05/23/2004 : 22:30:14

Right. I wish I had an owners manual. I will have to try to track one down. I am going see if I can order one.

On the Yamaha 9.9HP 4-stroke outboard, there's supposed to be a stainless steel rod, 8mm diameter, maybe 17cm long, with a black plastic clip molded on one end in one of the several sets of holes near the aft lower end of the motor mount clamp. That is the trim pin, which also is what the reverse tilt lock engages. If it's not installed, your motor will kick up out of the water in reverse. If your trim pin is missing for some reason, a 5/16"x6" stainless steel bolt and nylock nut will work as a jury rig -- just don't crank down on the nut, only engage the nylock leaving the bolt free to spin, or gently use a wingnut and lockwasher.

To tilt the motor up out of the water, first disengage the tilt lock down by pressing down the small white thumb lever under the front carrying handle of the motor just above the motor mount clamp screw handles. After tilting the motor, engage the up-latch on the stbd side of the motor mount clamp near the tilt pivot axis.

I suggest you study the owner's manual for you engine. You may find it enlightening.

-- Leon Sisson
[/quote]

Edited by - on

Brooke Willson
Admiral

Members Avatar

USA
983 Posts

Response Posted - 05/24/2004 : 01:07:17

Jason, why don't you get someone at the marina or, if you trailer the boat, someone who knows some thing about outboards to look at your otor and show you what's what? Seems to me some local knowledge would be cheapest and easiest.

Brooke

Edited by - on

Buzz Maring
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1771 Posts

Response Posted - 05/24/2004 : 09:57:22

... That is the trim pin, which also is what the reverse tilt lock engages. If it's not installed, your motor will kick up out of the water in reverse ... - Leon

Hi Jason,

When I first launched my boat, I had the same problem ... the outboard would practically go into orbit every time I shifted into reverse and gave it the gas. As Leon suggests above, it was a missing trim pin that was causing the problem.

I have an older Mercury 7.5 hp ... Leon's description of the Yamaha trim pin sounds like it is different from the one for my Mercury ... nevertheless, here is what the trim pin for my Mercury looks like ... maybe this photo will be of some help:

When I shift my Mercury into reverse, there is a little hook that engages this pin, and that is what keeps the motor from flying up out of the water. Before I replaced that pin, I had to hang over the transom and continually push down on the outboard while trying to back out of the slip ... it was a real circus act!

'Hope you get it fixed ... let us know about your progress ... good luck!

Edited by - on

falco_esq
1st Mate

Members Avatar

USA
60 Posts

Response Posted - 05/24/2004 : 23:37:02

Thanks. I have seen this pin. It is on the motor. I wish I had some cellular link up for the internet on the boat, so I could write while I am looking at it! (Maybe next year.) I am going out tomorrow so I can get an eyeball on it. I'll let you know how I do.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Buzz Maring
 ... That is the trim pin, which also is what the reverse tilt lock engages. If it's not installed, your motor will kick up out of the water in reverse ... - Leon

Hi Jason,

When I first launched my boat, I had the same problem ... the outboard would practically go into orbit every time I shifted into reverse and gave it the gas. As Leon suggests above, it was a missing trim pin that was causing the problem.

I have an older Mercury 7.5 hp ... Leon's description of the Yamaha trim pin sounds like it is different from the one for my Mercury ... nevertheless, here is what the trim pin for my Mercury looks like ... maybe this photo will be of some help:

'Hope you get it fixed ... let us know about your progress ... good luck!
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Edited by - on

falco_esq
1st Mate

Members Avatar

USA
60 Posts

Response Posted - 05/27/2004 : 10:06:35

GOOD NEWS. Fixed that problem. Boy that was tough. All I did was flip up the switch on that outboard! Now I have no problem. ALSO, I have managaed to fix my problem at the deck plug, I am now getting 12+ volts out of there. (Turned out to be some loose wires,) Things are going well! Thanks again!

Edited by - on

Topic

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Jump To:

Association Forum

Notice: The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.