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Sea Wind
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Initially Posted - 06/03/2004 : 16:58:54

We have a 1995 Catalina 250 WB, and recently broke off the cover for the bilge pump. Does anyone know the Model number of the Whale Gusher Pump that came on the boat that year? I cannot find any information giving the model number. Also, where could I purchase just the cover and its plate, and not the entire bilge pump?

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coldducks
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Response Posted - 06/03/2004 : 19:14:29

if you find out, post it here, i broke mine too!

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Dkn420
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Response Posted - 06/03/2004 : 19:54:07

Have you tried Kent at Catalina? Dan #727

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bear
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Response Posted - 06/03/2004 : 20:32:25

I tried to find numbers for the cover without any luck, I did however super-glue the cover back together. Mine cracked just below the hinge point. 1995 S/N 089. "Bear" Rockin an Rollin on the Great Sacandaga Lake upstate N.Y.

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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 06/03/2004 : 22:26:30

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Ditto

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 06/04/2004 : 08:13:49

Some curious soul broke mine and I discovered that a replacememt cover meant buying a rebuild kit which was half as expensive as a new pump. That was many years ago however, the cover itself may be available alone now.

I ordered the kit direct from the factory using the phone number I think on the documentation supplied in the handbook.

I did sand the edges and relieve the new cover which had a propensity to bind on the upper curvitures when opening, which is probably why they get broken.

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bear
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Response Posted - 06/04/2004 : 11:23:24

Since I have never used the hand bilge pump, I was wondering has anyone eliminated that pump and gone electric and also any idea's as to what could fill the void left by the pump removal...."Bear" C250 WB S/N 089

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 06/04/2004 : 12:26:36

I think many add an electric pump... but why remove the manual pump as a manual pump is always a desirable back up pump?

In fact, each spring when performing a sring maintenance check list, the pump is tested by snaking the intake line from the bilge and placing it in a bucket of water near the companionway steps.

The bilge pump is subject to deterioation of the rubber diaphram and insect nest. Its a good idea to insure it's working ok. Unfortunately enough water can't be added to the bilge to test it as doing so will flood the cabin lockers as well. Of course in the total scheme of the bilge, thats a good thing.

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Response Posted - 06/05/2004 : 08:08:26

I found the same as Arlyn -you have to buy the entire plastic mounting just to get the door. I just checked & unfortunately while I still have the other pieces in my garage I couldn't find the part #.

Has anyone actually pumped water out with the manual pump? We "exercise" the diaphram each year, but I'm not about to put water in my boat on purpose just to test the pump so I don't even know if it would really work.

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bear
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Response Posted - 06/05/2004 : 12:23:30

I rather think Arlyn has done this by reading his reply above. I must admit also I have never used the pump either. I guess we just assume it will work if ever needed. "Bear"

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Jack Schafer
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Response Posted - 06/05/2004 : 22:25:30

I added an electric pump to the same hose the hand pump uses and both will work. I know because when I opened my boat afer winter storage I had a foot of water in the cabin. Surprise, surprise. It almost smells normal after cleaning the mildew and refinishing the teak.
Jack Schafer,2nd wind #106

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Response Posted - 06/06/2004 : 19:42:18

Add another one to the broken cover statistic. Mine snapped when opened about two weeks ago. I must admit I never used the pump, so really, the thing has been opened about once a year for nine years. I doubt if I had used it more it would've lasted any longer especially given the baking California Sun it's been exposed to. It's now propped in place awaiting a fix.

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Response Posted - 06/07/2004 : 23:38:02

I suggest you do NOT remove the manual pump in favor of relying on an electric pump. Manual redundancy in the "oh my we're sinking" department is a good thing....

Oscar, on the road in Lost Wages.

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John Hutto
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Response Posted - 06/12/2004 : 10:21:21

I didn't receive a handle with my used (hull 120) boat. What can I use? Thanks Windshark

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 06/12/2004 : 13:54:50

A piece of hardwood dowel would work great.

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528
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Response Posted - 06/12/2004 : 13:56:27

After following this thread, I decided to check my cover. It was binding also. I first used an xacto knife and sandpaper to relieve the top of the cover where it bound on the mounting plate. I then found the cover binding when open halfway. It turns out that the pin on the door is cast square and appears to be the other reason doors are breaking. I removed material and sanded the pin enough to allow a snug opening without binding. The door will stay open when up anyway, due to the curvature of the hull. Remounting required putting your finger in the pump socket and lifting slightly to align the monting screws with cover. 15 minutes, much quicker than waitng for a new cover to be delivered.

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arkayp
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Response Posted - 06/16/2004 : 01:31:43

I replaced the cover and plate in December 03. The Whale Pumps part number I purchased from West Marine is DP8904. If you put the part number in Google and search you will be able to locate numerous companies that sell it and see pictures to make sure it is what you need for your boat. My boat is a 1996 250 WB so I bet they are the same. It's about a $30.00 item.

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 06/16/2004 : 19:53:49

I've used my manual bilge pump too. Fortunately it was to pump out rainwater, and soon after it came in, last winter. (After some post-hurricane fiberglass therapy the marina moved my boat and blocked it with the bow tilted up - against my directions to block it level. Forward hatch won't drain that way.) That manual pump is pretty effective and left only a dribble around the keel bolts after I was done.

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 06/23/2004 : 17:08:14

I see this is an old thread, but seeing as how it is raining in N. FLA. I have time to catch up on messages. Once a year I dump just enough water into the bilge to cover the hose intake and pump it out with the manual. I guess the wing keel is easier to do this with. After the test I sponge out the remaining water. I would not think of removing the manual pump. In fact, I keep the handle tied to the stern pulpit seat with a tether were it can reach the pump in an emergency. When I board Chick-a-pea the first thing I do is open the bilge hatch and stick my nose down in and do a sniff test for fumes. (After rescuing a couple from the ICW while their boat burned to the water line I decided to make this standard procedure.) This also gives me the opportunity to see if there is any water there. In the three years I have owned her there has never been any water in the bilge and for that I am very thankful.

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