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Bruce Ebling
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Initially Posted - 06/16/2004 : 19:19:28

Last evening we were sailing in 20+mph winds and were trying to find the right combination of reefed main or furled foresail to properly balance the boat. One problem that I had was to reef the furler when it is under some pressure. Right now the furling line is run thru a jam block and a cleat. When I would un-cleat the line it would be too much to hang on to and the sail would unfurl. I am sure there must be a block and cleat system that would help with this. What do you use? A photo or run down of the equipment that works well would be a great help.
Bruce Ebling
1989 WK
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 06/16/2004 : 19:58:19

I ran into the same thing, especially when single handling. I put a cam cleat on the cabin top (just to the left of the winch) The area can be accessed from below by removing the light fixture and formica plate in the head:

http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/250WBForSale/Lines.html

It's a one handed operation now.

Hmmm, on second thought, you have a Wing, and thus a 135, which is quite a bit more to hang on to than my 110. Do you have coaming winches yet, or are the cabin top winches still your jib sheet winches? If you have coaming winches you can put the furler through a stopper on the cabin top winch, for controlled release. If you don't have the coaming winches (which I reccommend because it is the only way to go solo) you could maybe mount a small ratchet block on the mid ship pulpit with a stopper in front of it.

Oscar
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Edited by - Oscar on 06/16/2004 20:06:29

Bubba
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Response Posted - 06/16/2004 : 20:03:14

Since I don't race I can afford to sheet out the jib before I take a turn on the furling line. I've also found that I can only furl about one turn before my jib starts losing shape.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 06/16/2004 : 20:09:04

Do you have a foam luff? It helps keep the shape, and can be retrofitted. Talk to your sail doctor....

Oscar
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Bubba
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Response Posted - 06/16/2004 : 20:38:41

I've heard mixed opinions on the effectiveness of a foam luff. Especially since I only have a 110 jib.

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 06/16/2004 : 21:43:55

So what you are saying is your trying to roll up the head sail while its under load. Probably its max driving load at that. Would you try to reef the main the same way. ((NO)) I dont think so. Your trying to use the roller furl system for somethingit wasnt designed for. The drum or spool isnt designed for rolling up under that much tention. Not no way not no how . Head up untill the load is lessened and then furl. You will also need to reposition you cars on their trac to obtain the correct lead in angle for the sheet. Im sure your system came with instructions of how to use the equipment properly.

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frankr
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Response Posted - 06/16/2004 : 22:14:20

If you loosen the jib sheets so that the jib luffs I can be rolled without heading up --not very ellegant but it will work - although in 20+ mph winds it still may be a handful.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/16/2004 : 23:03:36

I never luff the genny to roll it up. I ease it but keep it filled, which does not really oppose the rolling--in fact, it rolls much more smoothly and evenly, and keeps its shape. I do that singlehanded, with the tiller between my knees. My Hood furler handles it easily--I'd expect any of the newer, roller bearing units to do the same.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/17/2004 : 08:56:37

As was previously stated, the jib sheet must be eased when furling the headsail. When furling in my headsail, I loosely hold the working jib sheet in my hand and let it pay out as I'm hauling in the furling line. This allows me to easily furl in the sail while maintaining a little tension so the genoa wraps nicely around the furler's foil.

Edited by - dlucier on 06/17/2004 08:57:45

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