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lancej
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Initially Posted - 06/30/2004 : 06:07:15

I know this subject has been covered to death, but...

Last night I mounted my new outboard bracket from Fulton performance, replacing my OMC bracket that was falling apart. I had hoped for a new happy life, absent from worries about my outboard. The thinking was that the new bracket had 14" of lift rather than 9" of the old one, get the motor out of the water farther, and into the water farther.

The problem is, that when the motor is in the "up" position now, it is closer to the stern, and the rail, and now I cannot tilt the motor to get it completly out of the water. It hits the stern rail.

My dreams of a trouble free life are now dashed.

I need an inboard.

Anyone else loose sleep over this issue?

Help!?!

Thanks.

Lance
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Dave Laux
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 06:58:21

Make a spacer block to go between the bracket and the transom and move the outboard back as much as you need. Also make sure you are not over submerging the outboard with all that travel. Dave

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RoofRoof
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 09:48:21

Yep, that's right. I used 3/4 inch white Starboard. I used either 4 or 5 pieces epoxied together. This gave me a nice space so that my Honda 8hp 4 stroke can tilt all the way to horizontal. While you're making the pieces, make one more for a backing plate inside the hull to strengthen the mount.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 09:57:15

You may be able to use less material if you taper the spacers - tapered ends pointing down.

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 12:19:35

I helped a dock mate mount his brand new Mercury 9.9 SailMaster onto his C25 last night. He had already mounted his new bracket, had to use 2 inch square SS tubing to get the motor away from the transom. Very stout setup, no wiggle or wobble. The new motor weighs in at 128 lbs.

This motor looks huge compared to my 9.9 Yamaha.

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 12:35:39

Lance -- You may have already tried it, but does turning the motor far to one side prior to tilting it back buy you any more room?

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lancej
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 12:51:06

I think I might just do this. The real bummer is, any time you get farther away from the transom, the more cavitation potential as you ride up and over the wave. Oh well. Design compromises. If we had an outboard well like a Cape Dory, we would all be complaining: "the motor is slowing us down, wouldn't it be nice to have an outboard bracket hanging off the back of the transom."

The 14" of travel is nice though, gets the prop down where it needs to be. I have a 25" shaft, between the two, I guess cavitation will not be an issue.

Lance
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lancej
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 12:52:57

Richard - this helps a little, but the tiller starts to get in the way of the stanchion.

thanks!

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Dave Laux
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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 17:05:37

Lance , this should make you feel better. The stern wave gets bigger (higher) as you move back a little so you may get less cavitation rather than more. Dave

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Response Posted - 06/30/2004 : 22:11:32

My Fulton is on 5" "beams" that Fulton used to sell for the purpose. But it's probably at least 3" further back that it needs to be. A few layers of Starboard (I have one as a "fronting" board) should do it for most configurations and be sturdier than the cast aluminum beams. The innermost board is the only one that should be large (for load spreading)--the outer layers can be about the size of each individual mounting plate of the bracket.

Regarding the handle, one thing that seems too simple to bring up, but that I've forgotten to do from time to time, is to lower the handle at least part way before tilting the engine. It's amazing how it doesn't run into things that way!

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roberoo
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Response Posted - 07/03/2004 : 21:54:57

Hi Lance,

o look at my boat if you get a chance at Erie Basin Marina d-22. I had same problem and put the starboard together as a sandwich . I sealed the old hole with epoxy and place the whole Starboard pieces ove it. I mounted a garhauer bracket. It works great.

Bob

P.S. where are you on Hard. Iw as at RCR the other day and didn't see you there.

Bob

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/04/2004 : 08:49:06

Hey Roof,
How on earth did you epoxy starboard together? I thought nothing would stick to that stuff.
I'm using one layer of starboard on each side of my transom as a backer to mount my Garelick bracket.

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 07/04/2004 : 21:51:06

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gloss
 Hey Roof,
How on earth did you epoxy starboard together? I thought nothing would stick to that stuff.
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No need to. If you're running bolts through it, just us a little sealer to keep stuff from getting into the "sandwich" and let the bolts do the work.

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lancej
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Response Posted - 07/06/2004 : 11:08:42

Thanks for your help guys.... as per normal it was quite helpful. I fabricated a 1" thick spacer out of stainless, and this seems to do the trick pretty well. I am also making a 4:1 block and tackle setup to lift the motor up and out of the drink, attached to the stern rail. (ignore bad grammer) I will post some pics soon.

Bob - hi there, I am at the south end of RCR, side nearer the skyway. The bow of the boat is pointed right toward the inner harbor, she's getting quite anxious! Look for the green stripe at the waterline - and the fresh coat of VC-17. I don't have the name on her yet.... so much to do.

Lance
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