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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 07/21/2004 :  16:57:48  Show Profile
Hi folks,
Just got home and under all the bills in the mail was the new issue of Sail Magazine. In it is a big article on the Catalina Yacht factory. Haven't read it yet as I need to do some plumbing work first (and I HATE plumbing work, it wouldn't be so bad if it was on the boat, but it's on the House)

Yeah, I know that some of you don't read the slick mags as they only have boats we can't afford, (my personal favorite is Lattitudes and Attitudes) but I do for the occasional article on maintenance, cruising, and most of all, a quick diversion to dreaming of sailing off into the sunset.....

That would be the August issue

Frank Gloss
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85 Ericson 32-3 shoal draft "Molto Bene"

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 07/22/2004 :  11:08:45  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Sailing around the cruising anchorage last night I was pleased to see a C 470 anchored there. Quite a boat! Hailing port Channel Islands (lots of miles to windward of San Diego!)

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 07/22/2004 :  13:03:17  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I was pleased to see a C 470 anchored there<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Ed Montague and I toured one of those at the '02 West Coast Rendezvous. We wrote a little about it in our articles in the 11/02 issue of Mainsheet.

This year the broker featured the C350 -- it's amazing how much space they've put in a boat that size.

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matsche
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Response Posted - 07/22/2004 :  14:21:01  Show Profile
Frank:

I don't mind reading the "slick" magazines either. The Catalina article is good, very positive. Apparently part of a "production boat" series they've started. There's also several articles featuring "smaller" boats that we actually could afford, including one featuring a cat 250. I think SAIL might be paying attention!

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 07/22/2004 :  18:58:01  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I love the C350 and would really like to take a look at one (but leave my credit card at home!)

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/22/2004 :  19:05:49  Show Profile
I read the article today. Yes it was positive. I would love to visit their plant someday.

I lurk on the C36 discussion list on Sailnet and there was a recent thread about the C-350 from the C36 owners and they aren't impressed. The main complaints is that it is slow, they call it a BAB or big aft boat, or big ass boat. The table can't be lowered, and other complaints, but mostly that it is slow.

Apparently they are still selling about 100 C-36's each year.

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 07/22/2004 :  22:23:42  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">BAB or big aft boat, or big ass boat<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Very true -- that's how they got that huge aft cabin in there. Despite the C36'ers opinions, I think it will be a success because many folks in the market for new boats go for those features, which are more rare in a boat less than 40'. For those folks, a little loss in boat speed is made up in other ways. At the Rendezvous this year, there were 20 C36's, which has been available for many years, and there were 5 C350's, which is a pretty new boat. I really don't know too much about either boat (including their respective prices), but I think that style (carrying the beam aft to allow more interior space) is a definite trend.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 07/23/2004 :  01:27:19  Show Profile
One of our sailing club members just moved up from a Catalina 250WB to a C-350 (cost almost double what I paid for my house in 1989!). This was remarkable among our club members as it was only the second or third "brand new" boat purchased in the last 10 to 12 years. Our members mostly have boats that they bought used; Catalina 22's & 25's, a couple of 250's, a 270, and a few "big" boats (Catalina 30, 34, 350, and 36), and the rest "brand 'X'" boats (meaning non-Catalina). I myself have never purchased a new boat other than my Apex dinghy, and don't expect to. Especially since I don't see anything new in the 25'-27' size range from any sailboat company (including Catalina), that I like more than my '89 C-25WK Mk. IV. When I retire in 10 years, if I am still in good enough health to engage in sailing adventures, I might take a look at Catalina 30's, but that would be about as large a boat as I would care to single-hand.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/23/2004 :  06:14:48  Show Profile
I'm with you Larry, there's nothing in the 25 foot range as good as an 89 wing

I figure that in 8 to 10 years the prices of Catalina 36 mark !!'s on the used market will be low enough so that I can buy one. I want more size to head to the Caribbean.

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 07/23/2004 :  11:02:10  Show Profile
Gloss, I agree, if I could only keep one mag subscription, it would be Lats & Atts. I usually read it cover-to-cover the day it arrives. Good Old Boat would be second choice, Southwinds (a free regional sailing mag)third. A relative newcomer, Boat Works, is also a good one for project ideas.

Other than the usual "big money sailing" suspects; Sail, Sailing, Cruising World, what other good sailing mags are out there? I'm always looking for new reading material but it seems Borders and Barnes & Noble always carry just those biggies.

Steve

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sailgal
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Response Posted - 07/23/2004 :  11:35:03  Show Profile
There is a 350 3 slips down from me. That baby is huge inside compared to my 250. The owner stands 6'2" and said that was one of his reasons he purchased the boat....head room. It sure is a pretty boat inside(thought I heard an echo in there), but it sits most of the time. Too big to day sail in my parts, one reason I love my WB...skinny waters!

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/23/2004 :  22:08:27  Show Profile
I dropped Sailing as I really don't care about racing.
I'm still relatively new to sailing so I read all the big mags, they do have some good articles. I find it hard to relate to a boat that costs a quarter million though.
I kinda want to take an offshore sailing class, so maybe one of those Lattitudes and Attitudes class would be good, but then again getting US Sailing certifications would be good too.

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sterngucker
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Response Posted - 07/24/2004 :  03:43:05  Show Profile
Here on the left coast it's "Latitude 38". Lots of useful local knowledge, racing news, and best of all, lots of true stories of high sea adventure in faraway places. I devour it cover to cover whenever I get my hands on one

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MattL
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Response Posted - 07/24/2004 :  03:55:01  Show Profile
Charlie I kind of like the coatal watch. This is where they give reports from the coast guard. Not gross like red highway, but it still makes you think.

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 07/24/2004 :  08:51:47  Show Profile
Sterngucker, I ran across a "Latitude 38" a while ago and really enjoyed reading it. Like "Latitudes and Attitudes," it's the true stories of high-sea adventures from the folks that are out there doing it that makes for such good reading.

Can't remember where I found it but had to pay $1.00 for it. It's free on the left coast, isn't it?

Steve

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 07/24/2004 :  19:28:01  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">It's free on the left coast, isn't it?
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Not everywhere -- some places charge $1 to cover shipping from the Bay Area. I get mine free at the local Boaters World.

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 07/26/2004 :  14:22:55  Show Profile
My wife and I had the oppotunity to be in LA and make a point of visiting the Catalina factory. It was an Off day for tours BUT the Catalina people invited us in, showed us around,even the factory and they even took the time to look the original sales slip of the 22 that we owned at the time and gave us a copy of it! Another reason why when we moved up we stayed with Catalina.

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