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dean
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Initially Posted - 08/16/2004 :  20:48:22  Show Profile
I recently purchased a c25 for a steal of a price, but know little about sailboats larger than the racing dinghys I used in college. It seems that the manuals for the c25 are being reprinted with no estimate for when they'll be finished, anyone know where to get an old one?

also, some of the cleats on the boat are loose, and the holes are stripped. what is the process for plugging and redrilling a hole in the fiberglass? any good sites to check for repair walkthroughs? books?

hoping to get in the water this season...

dean
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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 08/16/2004 :  21:04:08  Show Profile
Although the Catalina Direct manuals are currently unavailable both the old and new original factory manuals for the Catalina 25 are present on this website. You'll find them under the heading Brochures and Manuals. There is also a parts list.

I don't believe you'll need to drill through any fiberglass to tighten the cleats; they need to be re-bolted and bedded with an appropriate sealant. There are others here who have done this repair who are familiar with sealants and I'm sure they'll respond to your question shortly.

Good luck with your new boat and welcome aboard.
Edited by - oldsalt on 08/16/2004 21:08:27
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/16/2004 :  21:50:55  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Dean, the best owners manual there is is reading the last years posts on this site. You will not be sorry.
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 08/16/2004 :  21:56:30  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Learning new skills is fun. Sailboats are not rocket science. You'll be able to acquire enough knowledge quickly to enjoy the sport. Then you'll spend the rest of your life searching for perfection. This forum is a good place, people around marina's, especially sailors, are frequently willing to give advice or even help. Also, there are tons of books on the subject. Here's one:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0688047025/qid=1092707219/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-9712844-6904915?v=glance& s=books

As far as cleats. With some contortioning you will find nuts and washers on the other end of the bolts. Have a helper hold the bolts, remove the nuts and washers. Clean everything up and if everything is still serviceable reinstall them with a sealant (marine silicone, or tougher but more permanent 3m 5200). Put the sealant around the bolts on the underside of the cleat. It's job is to keep water from penetrating into the boat along the bolts,

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/16/2004 :  22:32:41  Show Profile
Adding to the discussion for "bedding" the cleats... Polysulfide caulk such as 3M 4200 or Lifecaulk are generally recommended. Polyurethane is too adhesive, and silicone leaves a residue where you try to clean it up, and then the residue eventually turns dark in the sun.

Apply enough to get complete coverage from the bolts to the edges of the cleats, and then hand-tighten the cleats just enough to squeeze a little out, leaving at least a 16th inch "gasket". Wipe away what sqeezed out with a wet paper towel, and then let the caulk set for at least 24 hours (or whatever the instructions say). Then crank down the nuts, holding the machine screws stationary (so the caulk maintains its seal on the shafts). That puts pressure on the caulk "gasket" and firms up the cleat. The pressurized gasket will form a tight seal for many years.

As for sailing the C-25, the principles are the same as in dinghy sailing except you really can't dump her... The big difference is approaching a dock or trailer with 5500 lbs. of boat. You don't stop her with a hand or a leg! And if she hits, she makes a big boom! Take it VERY SLOWLY.
Edited by - Dave Bristle on 08/16/2004 22:37:35
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