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Two anchors, chain and rode - How to store?

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jwilliams
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Initially Posted - 08/23/2004 : 12:31:09

Hi all,

I bought a 7.5kilo Bruce-type anchor for $39 on Ebay, new (Northstar anchors, nicely finished, reinforcing ridge down the middle blade). Got 20ft of 1/4 gal. chain and 150ft of rode from WMarine. Made myself a Danforth holder for the one to hang from the bow pulpit. Plan to keep the Bruce on the bow roller (CD upgraded stem w/roller).

What are your strategies for managing the potential tangle of chain and rode?

Have thought of a separation down the middle of some kind. The oddly triangle shape of the locker rules out most plastic boxes or buckets, tho.

Jim Williams
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SF Bay

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 : 13:26:17

IMHO follows...

I don't think you'll have great success managing 2 anchors and rodes in the anchor locker of a C25. I'd keep the secondary chain and rode coiled in a 5 gal plastic bucket ready for deployment.

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 : 13:31:19

The anchor locker can hold quite a bit of rode if you take the time to coil it neatly in there after each use. The line goes in first around the edge, followed by the chain in the center of the coil. Taking care in stowing the rode each time also helps the chain/line to play out without tangles the next time you anchor. For two separate rodes, I think Leon has glassed in a sturdy, separating wall down the middle. I suppose the same storage principle applies (neatness counts), just less room per rode. 20' chain + 150' line should fit fine into half of the locker assuming no anchors are also stored in the locker (as you described). I just replaced my single rode (due to an errant anchorer who recently caught my line in his prop, cutting my line plus some other damage) with 60' of 1/4" chain + 334' of 1/2" three-strand. It all fits well, including a 13# danforth on top of the chain, with a little room to spare.

Edited by - RichardG on 08/23/2004 13:51:36

Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 : 13:42:23

I keep a spare Danforth, chain, and rode in the port cockpit locker. I can't imagine two sets of rode in the anchor locker.

Brooke

Edited by - Brooke Willson on 08/23/2004 16:18:14

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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 : 14:11:03

I keep a spare Danforth, chain, and rode in the starboard cockpit locker. I can't imagine two sets of rode in the anchor locker. - Brooke

Hi Brooke,

How did you ever get an anchor to fit in the starboard locker? It seems too shallow to me ... I keep safety gear in there.

While we're on the subject of anchoring, there's something I've been wondering about for a while now. Since anchors are often deployed in a hurry to keep from blowing into a lee shore or whatever, has anyone ever seen an anchor mounted on a bracket at the stern?

I keep a spare anchor in the port locker for emergencies ... I'm just not sure I could dig it out of there and deploy it in a hurry if I needed to.

'Any thoughts, pros or cons? Thanks!

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 : 16:17:50

Oops. The left side of the boat is, uh, port, isn't it?

Brooke

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Jared
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 : 17:05:24

I have one anchor and its chain and rode in the anchor locker to one side and then another anchor hanging on the bow pulpit with the chain and rode coiled in the anchor locker to the left of the other anchor. It seems that there is plenty of space in the locker for one anchor and two sets of chain and rode.

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 08/23/2004 : 19:44:05

Jim,<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Made myself a Danforth holder for the one to hang from the bow pulpit. Plan to keep the Bruce on the bow roller (CD upgraded stem w/roller). What are your strategies for managing the potential tangle of chain and rode? Have thought of a separation down the middle of some kind.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I too have both a Bruce-style and a Danforth on the bow just as you describe, with the rodes in the stock anchor locker. Here's how:
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> I think Leon has glassed in a sturdy, separating wall down the middle.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Close. My anchor locker partition is adjustable and removable. Try to picture something roughly the shape of a generic paper airplane, but inverted. Sort of an inverted 'T' in cross section. The base is similar in shape to the anchor locker hatch cover, but smaller in size. The vertical divider wall is almost as long and tall as the interior of the locker. The base is plenty large enough to prevent the divider from tipping over, yet small enough to allow the divider to be slid side to side a considerable amount, so that the port-to-stbd position is quite adjustable. The partition is made of 1/4" marine plywood saturated with epoxy resin. The joint is a fillet made of thickened epoxy.

There's a 1"x2" notch at the front of the hatch opening to accomodate the rodes.

This configuration neatly stows two approx. 275' nylon rodes with about a boat length of chain each. (One is 3/8" with 3/16" chain, the other 7/16" with 1/4" chain.) There's even room left over for a small kellet.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Since anchors are often deployed in a hurry ... has anyone ever seen an anchor mounted on a bracket at the stern?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Yes, when I feel the need to carry a stern anchor at the ready, I hang a std. size Danforth from the stern rail. I have a section of 3" PVC pipe hose-clamped to the port stanchion of the stern rail like an oversized fishing rod holder. I sick the anchor in it upside down. The short light chain leads through a notch in the aft lip of the port locker to 100' of 3/8" rode in a bucket. The chain is also routed so that if the anchor is tossed out over the top of the stern rail, the taught rode will lead fair to the port stern cleat. The bitter end is tied off inside the locker. (Remember, when deploying any anchor in an emergency, the boat may still have considerable way on. Don't count on being able to stop it with just your white knuckle grip on the rode, no matter how much adrenaline you have in your blood at the time.

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-- Leon Sisson

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PZell
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Response Posted - 08/24/2004 : 11:39:33

My stern anchor sits horizontally on the cross member I've added to the stern pulpit to hold
the trailor ball that is used for the Yuloh (sculling oar)pivot. The chain and rode are in a
milk carton on the cockpit sole at the stern. Use that to also coil mainsheet and hold stuff sometimes when sailing. Anchor can be deployed in a few seconds. You can take a couple of 1 inch
pieces of hose, put it around the stanchions, and clip a hose clamp to them. Then fit a couple
of pieces of metal or wood across the space between the stanchions on top of the hose/hose clamps. The Danforth fits there horizontal very snugly with a couple of line wraps to safely secure it. Our marina entrance sometimes has a vicious chop from a 25 knot plus cross wind to
the entrance. Just a hedge on Murphy.

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dhunt
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Response Posted - 08/28/2004 : 13:28:54

14 lb. danforth in the bow anchor locker . . . slightly smaller anchor kept hanging on the stern starboard pulpit. I just use a 1/4" line with two hold it there . . . (one of the best recreations aboard is fidling around with line) . . . I keep the rode and chain in the shallow starboard locker . . . haven't found any better use for the space.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/28/2004 : 21:50:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dhunt
 I keep the rode and chain in the shallow starboard locker . . . haven't found any better use for the space.
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Gee--I'd have to find another place for my horn, ski tow rope, dock lines, and tiller bridle... But I do like the idea of an anchor on the stern rail.

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