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Lightnup
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Initially Posted - 09/08/2004 : 22:33:38

Various pictures of boats damaged by Hurricane Frances on Florida's east coast. I understand some people would rather not see these. I can understand that, which is why I've posted a link instead of the pictures themselves. However, in my opinion, this is newsworthy, of interest to sailors, not something you see every day (thank God) and the pics might just inspire someone to secure their own boat just a little bit better when faced with a similar situation. There's no blood or guts or gore, just damaged boats.

http://share.shutterfly.com/action/share/show/large?auto=1& i=EeAOGjZs1atGzgg& m=1

Steve

Steve Madden
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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 09/08/2004 : 23:33:45

This is why there is so much treasure off the coast of Florida. Can you imagine not having satellites or even radio! I was watching my local news on TV and they were showing two guys trying to raise a sailboat with a come-a-long. They had no idea how much H20 weighs. My 250 weighs 3400 lbs. empty. So full of water it must weigh 20 x that at least, judging by where the water line is.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 09/08/2004 : 23:37:04

Bummer... reminds me of the pictures from La Paz (Baja) after the hurricane down there last year... when the docks start breaking up, it's all over.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 09/08/2004 : 23:42:00

The pictures really makes my stomach tie itself in knots. Since you did not give a location it appears they are in Stuart,FL., which is were landfall occurred. Then think about this it was at Cat.2 hurricane and IVAN is now heading for landfall around Sarasota, according to the NHC, as a Cat.4.
Suzie, start adding lines to yours and your neighbors boat, since he doesn,t seem to care if his or yours gets damaged.
The problem in FLorida that causes most boat damage is that a lot of them are what I call, snowbird boats, i.e. no one is here to take care of them. They depend on marinas to do this, but it does not always happen.
We went down to a small marina on Black Creek, about 20 boats, and saw five sunk. I would say size wise anywhere from 22 to 40 feet. The bad thing is we only had tropical force winds here not hurricane force like Stuart. Most, from what I could see, had only one line from each cleat and most had no spring lines. A disaster looking for a place to happen.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 09/08/2004 : 23:51:49

These pictures make me SO glad that my boat is trailerable, so that if I lived in a hurricane-prone area, I would have the option of easily hauling the boat and taking it inland, or at least somewhere safer than right at the seashore. Of course, with my usual luck, the boat would probably still get smashed by a falling tree or power pole, supposedly safe on it's trailer!

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 09/09/2004 : 02:56:34

Respectfully, let's remember these were just boats. Monday night here in Richmond several people drowned trying to get out of their cars caught in flash flooding downtown. One person was swept away as part of a human chain trying to rescue a stranded woman in her car. And a trailer park of 69 homes -- all poor people -- was destroyed and the park condemned. Those folks not only lost everything they had, they will have to live elsewhere when they recover.

I love my boat, and I'm sure those people loved theirs. But boats can be replaced; people can't.

Brooke

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 09/09/2004 : 06:17:48

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I love my boat, and I'm sure those people loved theirs. But boats can be replaced; people can't.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
You're 100% right Brooke. Since boats are obviously the reason for our crossing paths here on the Information Superhighway though, it's only natural that boats would be the focus of our hurricane discussions...without diminishing the value of the really important things in our lives.

Steve

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 09/09/2004 : 14:25:24

On the whole it is an awfull tragedy. It looked like a lot of the boats needed to be crushed. I wonder how many people are dancing in the street because their insurance will finally pay off and they are out from under the boat they have abused for so long.
Once again I do not understand people who own trailerable boats who do not own trailers, seems like a prudent accessory for Florida and the hurricane coast.
I live in Kansas, and we have had two tornados hit our club. We choose where we live and we get what comes with the choice. I wish we had the warning time for tornados that people have for hurricanes.

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MattL
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Response Posted - 09/09/2004 : 18:13:32

I'll take the likelyhood of a California earthquake over a Florida hurricane any day.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 09/09/2004 : 18:53:26

Pictures from my Marina in Jax, Fl. Notice the strong Cat amongst the sunken.

http://firstcoastphotos.com/main/viewalbum.php

Round 2 or 3 coming this week!!

Tom.

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triley
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Response Posted - 09/09/2004 : 20:35:50

When I was a kid, my Dad sailed our little boat from Kennebunkport to Ipswich, MA to ride out one of the hurricanes-- Carol, Diane, I don't remember which. She was snugly moored up the Ipswich River and after the hurricane passed was nowhere to be seen. We Found her after an hour's search in what had been a little salt march pond and had become quite a lake, lying quietly at her mooring, waiting for us humans to figure out how to get her out of that little landlocked harbor that had asved her sweet little frame from destruction.

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 09/09/2004 : 21:18:09

Brooke is exactly right. After my kid was in a fairly serious car accident (she was upset because the car was wrecked!), I told her, and it applies here, "If money will fix it, it is not a problem". If somebody is seriously injured (even killed) we cannot fix it. As much as we love our boats, money can fix them.

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 09/10/2004 : 03:43:18

Other than the editorial comment, this is not a doctored picture.

Steve

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 09/10/2004 : 07:59:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I'll take the likelyhood of a California earthquake over a Florida hurricane any day.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I was thinking the same thing about a winter blizzard or a n'oreaster. Now if we could increase the sailing season by 6 months

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 09/10/2004 : 08:10:01

I'm sure we all agree with Brooke about the value of human life. But as I looked through the pictures, I was particularly taken with two of them.

1) The picture of the guy standing next to OPUS I. His facial expression and posture spoke volumes of his frustration, to me.

2) The next picture of the guy standing on the stern of his mostly sunk boat shared the same kind of frustration, again to me. This reminded of the day I came to our house and discovered a that a water pipe had ruptured in the attic. We had several inches of water in garage and living room. So what do I do after turning of the water? I got the shop vac our and started vacuuming water out of the garage . . . duh!

As distressing the pics are, I appreciate that Steve posted them. It serves as a reminder of the power of nature and ought to encourage all of us to be better prepared for storms like these, even when we don't live in areas normally thought of as huricanne areas. Also as Frank has said why boats like our ought to have a trailer. I've wrestled with "justifying the purchase of both the trailer and tow rig, and these pictures do that for me.

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Doug
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Response Posted - 09/10/2004 : 10:57:03

Steve- Where did you get the projection map?

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 09/10/2004 : 11:05:16

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Where did you get the projection map?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
http://www.cdera.org/activecyclones/active4.html Click on "models"

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