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Ben - FL
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Initially Posted - 09/12/2004 : 13:18:56

OK, now that we are back on track I would like to ask a question. Which license is the merchant marine license, the six-pack or the 100 ton?

Since I have just started the class, I have heard from friends here in town that I should just get the 100 ton. If I get the OUPV license do I upgrade it to the 100 ton or do I have to maintain two licesnes.
Is there continuing education requirements for captains like there is for contractors?

Safe voyages,
Ben
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 09/12/2004 : 14:08:37

Hey Ben,
Could you explain just what a six pack license is, and what a 100 ton license is? What do they allow you to do?
What is your personal goal in this quest?
In any event, good luck to you.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/12/2004 : 16:00:45

Six pack is slang for six pax, six passengers. 100 ton is just that. Sailing and towing endorsements are extra....

Oscar
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 09/12/2004 : 20:15:49

Im taking the class for the 100 ton. Its the same test. The USCG may give you a 50T or 25T license. Its all about sea time and the largest vessel you can document. My older power boat was documented 17T. I have about 500 days at sea on that boat and about 200 on my C25.

Sailing endorsement - you need 180 (4 hour) days on a sailboat. plus pass the sailing test.

Yowing endorsement - pass the test. No sea time is required for the towing license.

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ddlyle
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Response Posted - 09/12/2004 : 22:10:52

With the OUPV (6 pack) license you are limited to Operate an Uninspected Passenger Vessel (OUPV).
An un-inspected passenger vessel cannot carry more than 6 passengers.
An Inspected vessel (inspected anually by the US Coast Guard)
may carry more than 6 passengers depending upon what the Coast Guard authorizes the vessel to carry. There are many many points of the inspection and requirements of the vessel. Pages and pages of regulations the vessel must satisfy.
That is in large part the kind of information one learns to obtain the Masters License.

If I were chartering my own boat, I would never consider carrying more than 6 passengers because I would not want to undergo the inspection process every year.
You essentially upgrade your OUPV to Master.
You have to pass 2 (maybe 3) more tests.
(You have to pass 4 tests for the OUPV as I recall).

I went to "Sea School", an outfit that offers Coast Guard approved seminars (cram course).

But I DO have a Masters license and have worked with fine Coast Guard inspectors on the boat upon which I was employed. The boat passed the inspection with no black marks several times.
And it was fun being the paid capatin of a sailboat that was certified to carry as many as 45 passengers.

One has to renew his Masters license every 5 years. The only continuing ed I know of is keeping one's certification in force for CPR and First aid (like by the Red Cross).

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 09/13/2004 : 03:02:14

The reason I got interested in this endevor is a friend of mine bought a 28 ft Columbia and wanted me to deliver it from Ft. Lauderdale to J'ville. Then he renigged and had another guy do it for $150. When he got to his boat there was substantial damage. Wires were cut and the bilge pumps woundln't come on. And the swim platform and a lazzerette hatch were broken. And apparently there was a mayday called at St. Augustine because the guy had run the batteries down while sailing for three days and so could not start the deisel.

Anyway, I thought if could get a license I could start to advertise for boat delivery.

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ddlyle
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Response Posted - 09/13/2004 : 20:13:28

Nice Idea !
In your "ads" for the delivery business service, a nice <b>resume'</b> of the kinds of boats and locations you've sailed would be helpful.
I think there are links (like in SailNet) for the service you suggest.

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