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Lightnup
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Initially Posted - 10/02/2004 :  00:01:14  Show Profile
<b>"Ummm...would you go over that <i>stand-on</i> thing for me again?"</b>
Steve Madden
'87 WK #5668 "Lorica"
Fort Myers, FL
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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 10/02/2004 :  00:05:56  Show Profile
Well, the smaller boat IS on Starboard Tack, after all!
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 10/02/2004 :  09:16:13  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Let me guess, the 25 is cruising right to left, the sled was racing running a spinnaker to a mark rounding, taking down the chute, putting the jib back up blocking helmsmans view not noticing the 25....looks like the one in the foreground is heading for the mark and two in the background have rounded and are heading back uphill. (Leaving the scene of an accident?)

If the above analysis is correct, I 'm not sure who's going to get the bill. But I do know I would not have gotten anywhere near there. (Like, by a mile.)

Oscar
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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 10/02/2004 :  10:12:39  Show Profile
Hi,

I think it's a 27. see the ladder.

And again a Catalina survives a major impact. Darn good boats. Although damaged, she is still afloat.

A Macgregor(SP?), would be on the bottom.

PW
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 10/02/2004 :  10:29:56  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
Yiiiiikes!

Looks to me like the skipper of the red boat will have a large yard bill. I expect he'll be after his foredeck crew for partial payment. They seem to be running forward to see what happened and not where they should have been, on the foredeck observing the area aroundthe mark for the helmsman. Lesson learned.

Al
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 10/02/2004 :  10:31:53  Show Profile
Hmmm... the guy in the C27 doesn't have his protest flag up yet...

Oscar's got the right idea... "I would not have gotten anywhere near there. (Like, by a mile.)"

Good advice to any beginning sailors reading this... even though the waters are 'public' it's good common sense (and polite) to stay well clear of boats engaged in a regatta.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/02/2004 :  12:32:50  Show Profile
I'm guessing the race mark is just outside of the picture (to the right)--that's a REALLY, REALLY bad place for that 27 to be! I think he's at least equally to blame--maybe more. First, stand-on vessel aside, he has the duty to know what's going on around him, signal if he believes a collision is imminent, and avoid the collision. Getting T-boned indicates he did none of those things. The sled skipper was watching the mark, watching the guy trying to overlap him, directing the douse-and-set, and not thinking some yahoo would enter the racecourse on his leeward side right by the mark.

I got caught in a race in my little daysailer once--I thought the fleet was turning at a mark upwind from me, and they sailed right by it to a mark another a mile downwind. I pointed up into them--just about 180 degrees from their course--and one of them decided to give me a little scare, totally uncalled for... I gave his sail number to the yacht club commodore. The key difference: I was paying attention.
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 10/02/2004 :  14:42:29  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
Perhaps the C27 was racing as well. Handicaps can do wonders for competitiveness.

Al
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SoCalGary
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Response Posted - 10/02/2004 :  15:59:34  Show Profile  Visit SoCalGary's Homepage
Although it does not show that the red boat was at fault, I would agree that the Catalina was also racing, note the light blue flag on the backstay and also note the magenta flag on the boat leaving the scene.

I think that these flags are class designations (same flag, different color).

Bummer for all around

SoCalGary
San Diego
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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 10/03/2004 :  20:52:32  Show Profile
Hello Gary . Haven't noticed you on the website until right now. Where is your boat slipped/anchored/or?

How about joining the newly started Fleet 7? We're very low-key and there's no dues and we meet whenever all / some of us go sailing on a weekend. We've done dock barbeques and talk boats all the time. Jim Baumgart has been sailing almost every evening but he works only 10 minutes from the dock. We (all 5 of us so far) are slipped on L dock at Marina Village Marina right across the road from SeaWorld.

If your boat is not in a slip presently, you're more than welcome to jump on one of ours and do some sailing. Jim and I were out on 9 Mile Bank yesterday and plan to sail to San Diego Bay and have lunch on Coronado, then sail back, this coming Saturday. Three boats (Cavins, Norgans, and JimB) sailed to La Jolla Cove and back to Mission Bay two weekends ago. It was excellent!!

Sure would enjoy meeting you and doing some sailing.....and Jim and I are always racing each other just to improve our boat speed. Classical Cat will go to the Nationals in Kansas next summer and Jim has volunteered to crew for me. I want him to learn "real good" by then

BTW, my wife and I teach up in Hemet and used to have Classical Cat in a slip by the Jolly Roger Restaurant in Oceanside.
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