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Scooter
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Initially Posted - 10/04/2004 :  10:48:40  Show Profile
Any ideas for painting the very bottom of a wing keel? Boat is on a trailer and I can manage getting around the supports but the bottom of the keel is another issue.

I have some ideas but thought I would see what ideas there are out there already.

I am fortunate that I have space to build a "lift" for in the future. For now though I am trying to splash her before it gets too late in the season for NC. If no good (and quick) ideas then I'll just wait until I get the lift built in the spring.




Scooter
C25 '89 SR/WK #5878 "Square Knot"
Vandemere NC.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 10/04/2004 :  11:34:42  Show Profile
I've lifted my C25 a couple times... In your case, you only need to lift 4" or so.

In a nutshell, I placed 2 strong DF 4x12's across the trailer frame rails... one across forward of the keel and one aft of the keel for the jacking base. I then used (3) hydraulic jacks with appropriate blocking to do the lift. (2 under the stern section, positioned outboard for stability and 1 jack under the bow, a bit forward of the keel). If you lift using the ground as a base, you'll need a lot higher lift as the trailer springs and tires will come up 3 or 4 inches.

For lifting 'pads' I used pieces of 2x12 doug fir about 1' long with scrap carpet placed between them and the hull.

If you have an EZ-Loader roller trailer you can actually use the roller frames to do the lifting... but using wooden pads may be just as easy.

Make sure not to get yourself between something heavy (the boat) and a 'hard place' without using some safety blocking. Don't trust hydraulic jacks, slings (or whatever) with life or limb.

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 10/05/2004 :  00:10:37  Show Profile
I did not paint the bottom of my keel when I bottom painted, reasoning that not much sunlight gets down there so the algae would not grow. I wonder if the bottom cleaning guy cleans the bottom of the keel? Have to ask. Maybe I should have figured out how to paint it.
Here's an idea that I had: tape heavy plastic onto the support in such a way that you completely surround the keel. Then lift up the edges of the plastic and secure it above the level of the bottom of the keel. Then (this may be too wild of an idea ) pour your paint into the "trough" you've fashioned so it spreads under the keel and "paints" it. Then drain the excess paint back into the bucket. Let it dry. Redo ad infinitum. Remove plastic, float the boat, clean off the keel support on the trailer.
Well, anyway, it's just an idea.....

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 10/05/2004 :  00:56:52  Show Profile
<font color="blue">... Well, anyway, it's just an idea..... - Gary</font id="blue">

I like it ... you get a gold star for originality anyway. BTW, you weren't burning any rope ends when you came up with that idea, were you?

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 10/06/2004 :  22:56:16  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">you get a gold star for originality anyway. BTW, you weren't burning any rope ends when you came up with that idea, were you?
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Now where does one stick the star on a C25? I've got lots of ideas, most of which are unappreciated . However, this one can be attributed to late nights, lots of school work, and most likely being out sailing on the Pacific last Saturday for around 8 to 9 hours.....YES!!!!

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 10/07/2004 :  15:23:39  Show Profile
If you run aground a lot in the sand, you don't have to worry about algae on the bottom of your wing. Not that I would recommend this approach though. But it's always good to have options

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 10/08/2004 :  01:17:12  Show Profile
You have a great idea there, Frank!! I should just do the grounding along the shore of Mission Bay just to see what it is like and how to get the boat unstuck again. Approach slowly and just slide the keel up a shallow incline of mud. And, of course, cleaning the keel bottom in the process.

One needs to know how these things transpire.....

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/08/2004 :  09:40:56  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by gnorgan</i>
<br />You have a great idea there, Frank!! I should just do the grounding along the shore of Mission Bay just to see what it is like and how to get the boat unstuck again. Approach slowly and just slide the keel up a shallow incline of mud. And, of course, cleaning the keel bottom in the process.

One needs to know how these things transpire.....
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And then sail through the kelp beds to clean the mud off.

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