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dbehling
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Initially Posted - 10/07/2004 : 01:56:58

Does anybody know what is below the floor. Between the hull and the interior floor. Is there any diagram of the bildge area. Some of it is obvious, as there are boards to remove. But...what about the rest of the boat? Example between v-bert and main salon area. Is the hull and floor all one, or is there a space between????? I have looked thru the catalog and can find all sorts of information on the boat, but not the overall layout of the bildge area and flooring. Any suggestions?????

1979 SR/SK L-Dinette "Windy Britches" Sail #1205

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 10/07/2004 : 08:45:34

Where the floor is flat, in the main cabin on port side of the keel trunk, there is about a 4" deep bilge space. This is where the pipe that supports the dinette table is. In most of the rest of the boat, the interior liner touches the hull and there is no appreciable bilge space. The areas where the floor is in contact with the hull are generally where the floor is curved. Where the floor is flat, there is some bilge space, the maximum gap occurs where the two access plates are located, under the dinette table. This is where you would install electric bilge pumps. In fact, if you plan on keeping the boat in a slip full time, you <i>should</i> install an automatic pump. I never did put in an electric pump because I never had #1205 in a slip full time (except for one summer at the lake). The other 8 years I had the boat were all dry-storage.

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dbehling
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Response Posted - 10/07/2004 : 10:10:50

Thanks Larry,

I have seen on other threads, (especially during keel repair) somebody had cut a inspection port on the starboard side floor right next to the keel well. So this made me question what/how the interior bidge is constructed. Especially since I can't find any diagrams of how boat is built, etc.

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John V.
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Response Posted - 10/08/2004 : 15:15:31

There are about 2 inches of space between the V berth locker (bare hull) and the V berth cutout floor. I drilled a 1/2 inch hole at the bottom of the locker bulkhead so any water in the locker would drain on down to the starboard pump, located under the salon floor.
there is about 3.5 inches on the starboard and 4 to 5 inches under the port dinette floor. I installed inspection ports on both sides of the keel slot. On the 77, and Im not sure if this is true on all models, there is a well in the galley and in the head. There I can just about stand up but there is little space between the floor and the hull.

The inspection ports are easy to install. I think there is a stringer midway between the dinette seats so if you have a dinette, locate the port port aft a bit.(jeez, that's a tangle of words, no wonder people have a hard time learning english) When the boat is riding level that's about the lowest point in the bilge. In the fall when laying up for winter, I open the ports and put one of those electronics cooling fans in the opening. That dries out the bilge within a week or so and cuts down on the stinky boat problem sometimes encountered by us northern sailors.

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dbehling
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Response Posted - 10/11/2004 : 01:28:31

John,

thank you for the information, I was beginning to think not alot of people knew what the "belly" of our boats looked like. It would be nice if Catalina had a diagram of the boat though. I like the idea of making inspection ports. Are you the one that had to do swing keel repair and had the inspection port on the starboard side?????

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John V.
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Response Posted - 10/11/2004 : 07:55:47

No, That was not me. I do have two inspection ports but not in the keel trunk. That trunk structure bears all the stress from the keel and I would rather leave it intact.

I'll try to put up some pic's when my laptop comes back from the shop.

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dbehling
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Response Posted - 10/12/2004 : 01:39:54

John,

thanks, that really would help. I think its useful to know as much about the boat as possible.

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John V.
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Response Posted - 10/12/2004 : 14:23:40

Not a problem Debbie,

and BTW welcome. I'm glad to be able to help a fellow sailor.
This forum has such a depth of experience, and knowlege. There is a tremendous level of warmth and collegiality as well.

If you are ever in Ohio during the fall winter or spring look us up and if you want a guided tour of the North Channel drag your boat out here and sail in one of the most beautiful cruising grounds in the world.

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 10/12/2004 : 15:11:12

If you go to the tech tips section, scroll down to Dagon Tail, keel repair and you can see where Ken Cave and many of us have put our inspection ports. There is about 4" of space between liner and hull in this location. A few years ago there was a skipper from Maine (I think) who cut the entire liner floor out of his boat and then laid in a nice teak and holly sole (floor). If I could just gain 3" of head room I could reduce the number of bumps on my head by half.

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