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existentialsailor
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Initially Posted - 10/10/2004 : 08:24:42

I have an 82 Capri 25 that has the original portholes. These are leaking seriously when there is a heavy rain. It appears that there have been attempts to seal them, but the work looks shoddy. I've seen mention of replacing them with the newer style flush mounts. Would anyone have a pointer as to how this would be done? Catalina doesn't by chance sell a retrofit kit do they? Any suggestions on how to solve this problem permenantly would be welcome.

Rick

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 10/10/2004 : 08:35:22

How would Kierkegaard have fixed a porthole leak?

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 10/10/2004 : 10:21:08

This topic has come up here from time to time... If you have not already done so, you may find it helpfull to search the archives and read the previous posts on leaking ports.

-- Leon Sisson

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 10/10/2004 : 11:04:54

I'd give the folks at Catalina Direct (see www.catalinadirect.com) a call and explain your problem. They've dealt with so many Catalinas that it's likely they will have good advice and/or the parts needed for your particular model.

I've never looked closely at the ports on a Capri so I can't offer any specific advice other than reglaze windows, rebed frames and take the time to do it right. Putting calk around the windows from the 'outside' usually doesn't work for long, if it works at all.

As Leon already noted, the archives will have lots of threads on the leaky window syndrome.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 10/10/2004 : 11:39:54

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by existentialsailor
 I've seen mention of replacing them with the newer style flush mounts. Catalina doesn't by chance sell a retrofit kit do they?
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The retrofit windows you have heard about are not from Catalina - they are sold by a company called Cruising Concepts. The kit costs is pretty expensive, I've heard about $650 for 4 windows, but they are said to look nice and they take care of the leaking problems. Here is the URL: http://www.cruisingconcepts.com/retroftwin.htm

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">
ClamBeach:
Putting calk around the windows from the 'outside' usually doesn't work for long, if it works at all.
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ClamBeach is unfortunately correct. I tried to fix the leak in the starboard-aft cabin window on #1205 about 5 years ago, by gooping it with silicone from the outside, and the new owner of the boat tells me that it's leaking again. If you do find it necessary to "temporarily" stop the leak with an exterior application of sealant, DON'T USE 3M-5200 POLYURETHANE (or similar products)!!! 5200 is too aggressively adhesive, and you will never get the window apart again without damaging it, or worse, the fiberglass rim around it. Good luck!

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Response Posted - 10/10/2004 : 12:47:36

While I agree that goop on the outside is not likely to help, as a stopgap measure, you might try some "flowable silicone" that typically comes in a little plastic bottle with a needle-nose spout. I got some called Captain somebody-or-other's Magic something-or-other... Sorry, I'm 3,000 miles from home and can't check the label. But the principle seems reasonable--it starts out watery, seeps into whatever gap the water is getting into, and then cures there. (It should be a lot less messy than regular silicone goop, which also tends to turn gray-brown after a few months' exposure to sunlight, and is nearly impossible to remove completely from gelcoat.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 10/10/2004 : 23:11:28

I replaced OJ's head portlights with Lewmars - excellent product.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 10/11/2004 : 07:11:54

I want to thank everyone for the excellent pointers and ideas. This will give me some thinking and research to do this winter.

Mark, I don't know how Kierkegaard would have done this, but if you are referencing who I think you are, my guess is that however he would have done it, he would have regretted it.

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 10/15/2004 : 23:37:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by existentialsailor
 my guess is that however he would have done it, he would have regretted it.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Exactly!

ps: I buy flowable silicone sealant, intended for leaking windshields, sold in auto parts stores. No regrets so far (but then I'm not Kierkegaard). Repairs last a couple seasons. WD-40 is a good cleanup solution for drips.

Fair winds

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ChrisDara
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Response Posted - 10/19/2004 : 12:07:07

There's a new issue of Boat Works magazine out. It is a new magazine written by the editors of SAIL. There is a great article on how to fabricate and install new ones. It's pretty easy for anyone with a little skill and some patience.

Check it out. I'm in the process of doing it myself.

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