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pwhallon
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Initially Posted - 11/06/2004 : 08:50:40

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?& units=Feet& checked_boats=1262389& slim=broker& & hosturl=irishboatshop& & ywo=irishboatshop&

click on full specs.

Paul

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 11/06/2004 : 09:10:49

Paul,

I have a friend who has a Cape Dory 25. He, along with a Siedelman 25, is my closest racing competition. A nice boat with good upwind performance. Can't compete with my C25 TR/WK down or off wind though.

Al
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 11/06/2004 : 10:43:08

Here's the caliber of my next boat... 40 something pilothouse. My retirement home for Mexico, Galapagos, South Seas, New Zealand, Australia. By then it will probably be time to swallow the hook.

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD&units=Feet&checked_boats=1220339&slim=quick&

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 11/06/2004 : 11:06:32

From the few photos included in the ad, I noticed that the interior layout seemed to have a lot of similarities to a Catalina 25 - especially the galley - but with one big difference: No V-Berth! And of course the CD-25 is a full-keeler. If anyone's interested, here's a web page on the CD-25D with some basic specs: http://www.capedory.org/specs/cd25d.htm
The boat in the Yachtworld ad appears to be one of last ones built before the Cape Dory company went out of business. I read that Cape Dory's various molds were sold to many different custom builders, with the CD-25D molds briefly going to a company called "Octavia Marine", which went out of business in 1990 without ever actually building a boat. Here's a web page: http://www.boatshow.com/Octavia25.html. The molds then went to Triangle Marine, which is building them on a limited, custom-order basis as the "Hadley 25". Quote from web page: "The CD25D and 26 (as of 11/01) and 270 (as of 2/00) are now being manufactured on a semi-custom basis as the Hadley 25, 26 and 27 by Triangle Marine Engineering, Ltd. [in Rhode Island] They will also supply molded parts."

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 11/06/2004 : 11:29:15

I came very close to buying a Cape Dory 26 instead of Passage... The 26 is much more like the 25D (in the ad above) than the CD 25 is. The 25D and 26 are Carl Alberg designs--the 25 is a boat Cape Dory took over from some other company, and doesn't look or sail like a member of the CD family. The 26 is more like our layout, except with an outboard in a stern lazarette (for which the extra foot was added). The 25D is a great layout for a cruising couple--that head in the forepeak can also be a shower (notice the grate on the floor), and you have 6' standing headroom all the way into the head--plenty for me, anyway.

Alberg drew some beautiful little boats!

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 11/06/2004 11:31:22

Oscar
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Response Posted - 11/06/2004 : 17:59:23

I was in one, but I seem to remember the 25 being roomier. The outboard in the bin is nice....outboard ease of operation and maintenance, inboard aesthetics. Many people glass the wells in and create a lazarette. In the decision C-25 vs CD you have to ask whether you want a full keel with the stability and tracking, or the better performance (especially light air) of the 25. Then again, with a good set of sails in proper trim it would do just fine.
Finally, for 20K you can buy two 25's.......In the pictures it looks like someone ran up a West Marine bill......if they think they're going to get that money back they will be hard to negotiate with.

Just a few observations....

Oscar
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Response Posted - 11/07/2004 : 22:54:28

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ClamBeach
 Here's the caliber of my next boat...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
And my around the world boat is: [url="http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/cache/pl_search_results.jsp?cit=true&slim=quick&sm=3&is=false&type=%28Sail%29&man=corbin&luom=126&fromLength=&toLength=&fromYear=&toYear=&currencyid=100&fromPrice=&toPrice="]Corbin 39[/url]

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 11/08/2004 : 09:24:36

Her's another of my favorites.

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD& units=Feet& checked_boats=1299375& slim=quick&

pw

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 11/08/2004 : 09:54:00

Both very nice vessels.... IMHO having an inside steering station (pilothouse) makes so much sense for cruising... most of the 'bad experience' cruising stories I've read are about having to hand steer through miserable weather while stuck out in the elements.

That Gulf 32 is pretty affordable... and simply looks 'right'. The Corbin is obviously built to take a licking and keep on ticking.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/08/2004 : 12:07:37

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Oscar
 Finally, for 20K you can buy two 25's.......In the pictures it looks like someone ran up a West Marine bill......if they think they're going to get that money back they will be hard to negotiate with.
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The first part is true, but for a good 25D, that's a pretty good price. It is probably the most sought-after Cape Dory. By roomier, I'm not sure what you're comparing to which (Cat/Cape, 26/25, etc.) A Cape Dory at any size is smaller below than a Catalina of the same length, but the Cape Dory 25 is much smaller than the 25D or 26--mostly because of sitting headroom only, and a very narrow cabin trunk. Also, the 25D's unusual layout is specifically designed for two people cruising, and for that, it's really nice. (No pretentions of "sleeping 5".) As you said, CD's strong points are for cruising, and their weak points are for racing (including the "secret" races in which we all engage

) except in heavy air and big chop, where they can probably humble a Catalina upwind. In any case, IMHO, they win the beauty contest up against almost anything.

As with Catalinas, a weak spot to check carefully in all Cape Dories is rot in the deck core. (The hulls are solid as rocks.) Another more visible issue in the 25D is the condition of the diesel and drive train. But that's nothing a few dozen boat units won't fix... (From the Yanmar, I suspect this one may have been repowered.)

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 11/08/2004 12:23:09

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