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Lightnup
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Initially Posted - 12/04/2004 : 19:55:41

Turns out my depthfinder IS working. I was told by a longtime marina resident today that the depth under my slip was "at least" 6 feet, even though my finder indicated 3.7 feet. So, trusting soul that I am, I proceeded to lower the keel while in the slip, just to see. After 22 of the normal 28 turns to full drop, I could sense that the boat was resting on the keel and pivoting on it in the mud. Oh well, so much for "local knowledge." So, I cranked it back up a few turns and left it semi-extended. That can't be any more pressure on the cable than fully raised, can it?

Steve

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Fort Myers, FL

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/04/2004 : 23:47:45

I keep mine raised 15 while in my slip to get across a cross bar that stiffens the two fingers on either side of my boat. I occasionally hear it clunk as I move on deck, and I don't like it but I doubt it is hurting anything. I also doubt it is straining the cable or the other cable system components.

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John V.
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Response Posted - 12/05/2004 : 11:26:48

Hey Steve, Frank,

I'm not sure about being docked, I know that when on a mooring where there would be a considerable amount of bobbing and turning, Catalina recommends that the keel be kept all the way down. Once locked in the slot there will be no movement of the keel on the turning pin. One of the ways keel wobble develops is to leave the keel up, or worse partially extended for long periods of time. The pin gets worn from side to side rocking motion. When I am on the radiotelephone with a harbor master I always say my draft is 5' and never wention the swing.
That way I get a slip deep enough for my extended keel.

Can either of you get a deeper slip so you can just keep the keel down all the way? I know that Catalina maintains that the keel should always be extended exept when on the trailer.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/05/2004 : 17:17:42

Our slips are a matter of seniority, some of the best slips have some little boats in them. If you want to on on the slip waiting list you simply sign up, once a year there is a slip assignment meeting and when they get to your name on the list you may move to any available slip, and then go back to the bottom of the list. or you can pass and move up for a couple years until a slip you really want becomes available. or you can take a sub-lease and be subject to the slip lessee wanting it back next season and being bounced to the bottom of the waiting list. What are some of the ways other clubs and marinas handle slip assignment?

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 12/05/2004 : 18:37:05

Frank - we just go to the marina office, look at the slip chart and pick the closest slip to where we want to be! (Having the marina 45% empty really helps!)
Derek

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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 12/05/2004 : 18:46:49

At our yacht club there are two sets of slips, one for the large boats up to 50+ length, and a small number for 25 ft and under, although there are some outboard types that stick out at both ends with pulpits and tipped up huge motors, they probably are 31 or 32 overall. In small boat section only two sailboats, one is mine. For both types you get on a waiting list. The wait is about 4-5 years for the big slips, and about 2-3 for small boat slips. It goes by how long you are on. If you turn down a slip for any reason, you go to the end of the line. This is a pretty common scenario here, where dock space is at a premium. Fair winds, ron srsk Orion Venice FL

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 12/05/2004 : 19:37:37

" I know that Catalina maintains that the keel should always be extended exept (sic) when on the trailer. "

With respect, I quote from page 15 of the Catalina 25 Owner's Manual: "Keeping the keel in the raised position will help prolong the life of the cable by keeping as much of it out of the water as possible."

Brooke

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/06/2004 : 08:00:44

Hey - Just a thought, how far below the waterline is the keel?

Maybe your both right?

i.e. Keel sits 2.3 feet below waterline and depth sounder is calibrated to go for depth under hull?

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/06/2004 : 08:57:51

I use my extendable boathook to probe slips for depth, then choose the deepest one. In the marina office, they have an extendable boathook with markings painted on it at 1 foot increments so prospective dock tenants can test for depth before putting in.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
 ...What are some of the ways other clubs and marinas handle slip assignment?
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In the fall, the marina holds a lottery for every slip in the marina to determine slip assignments for the following season. This seems to be the fairest arrangement for all.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/07/2004 : 07:45:48

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Brooke Willson
 " I know that Catalina maintains that the keel should always be extended exept (sic) when on the trailer. "

With respect, I quote from page 15 of the Catalina 25 Owner's Manual: "Keeping the keel in the raised position will help prolong the life of the cable by keeping as much of it out of the water as possible."

Brooke
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Here we go again...

The Keel up or down debate.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 12/07/2004 : 08:29:27

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ronrryan
 ....you get on a waiting list. The wait is about 4-5 years for the big slips, and about 2-3 for small boat slips.
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The last I heard, the wait list for slips at Folsom Lake Marina is now almost 1500 names long, and the turnover rate is about 50 slips per year, so the people at the end of the list have about a 30-year wait! I am #458 on the list, and expect to get a slip about the time I retire in 10 years or so.

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MattL
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Response Posted - 12/07/2004 : 09:26:25

Larry,
I thought you had a slip at Folsom. Do you use a mooring bouy? or dry slip?

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