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frich
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Initially Posted - 12/28/2004 :  14:49:52  Show Profile  Visit frich's Homepage
Hi All

Been reading This Old Boat, and am impressed with the look of interior wood flooring. Has anyone done a wood floor in a C25 1984 vintage?

What type of wood did you use? Red Oak seems to be a popular choice. I appreciate any replies detailing how this was done.

Frank R
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/28/2004 :  16:01:35  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I'm considering a teak and Holly floor. I've been formulating it in my head for the better part of 2 years... I am thinking of a 1/4" ply.

The other alternative that I have been toying around with is vacuum bagging the entire area and putting down a 1/16th teak and holly veneer. Then doing the same to all the visible fiberglass around the settees and drawers.

If I weren't so cheap and so lazy.... I'll get to it sooner or later

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frich
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Response Posted - 12/28/2004 :  16:08:42  Show Profile  Visit frich's Homepage
Duane

I am not familar with the veneer process, could you explain it a bit more? I'm thinking of doing this because I was just on board a Pacific Seacraft 28 footer! My dream boat!, ah but alas I can only spruce up the 25 with two kids in college (OUCH)

Frank

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 12/29/2004 :  00:43:44  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
Stay with Glass if you use your boat a lot. Its easyer to carpet or just leave plain. Once you go to wood your in a whole new world. Stains, edge rot, water intrution under the wood etc. Yea it looks good BUT.

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MattL
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Response Posted - 12/29/2004 :  00:48:19  Show Profile
I took out the rug this year, the first time since we got the boat. I never noticed all the dips and curves in the floor. I think this would make constructing with 1/4" ply wood dificult, not to mention the loss of standing room. Oh, if you have a pop top that's not much of an issue. I think if you have the ability the thinner veneer would work best, also it will be easier to fully seal with epoxy to prevent mosture problems.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/29/2004 :  08:07:15  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I've only been toying around with the concept of veneering everything. I'm not sure it would even work. The idea is really out there as far as these things go and since I am not skilled at it, let alone have half an inkling of how to do it, I'd probably go with only a single type of wood.

I've exchanged a few emails back in 2002 with Darryl Keil, the president of [url="http://www.vacupress.com/index.htm"]Vacu Press[/url] and he said it would be possible to do, just not easy.

It would entail gluing up a floor with a teak veneer, then sealing the entire area with a vacuum bag and tape. Attaching a vacuum pump and keep the floor under vacuum for about 3 hours.

It's a pipe dream at best and I'd have to find a vacuum pump on ebay or elsewhere cheaply. Besides not knowing if I'd be able to get a seal and a good vacuum, I'm dealing with a ton of other unknowns. Probably why I haven't done anything yet.

My second idea is a bit more plausible. I'd purchase two sheets of 1/4 inch teak and holly ply and after making a template of the cabin I'd cut the wood to fit in two sections. The cabin Floor and the area under the table. I [url=" http://www.marine-plywood.us/pricing.htm"]Homestead Hardwoods[/url] near me and they seem reasonable since I wouldn't have to worry about shipping.

Most likely, I'd also try this with a regular cheap piece of plywood first to see how to handle the dip in the sole in the galley. My thoughts though are that I'd need to fill this area in and level it with glass.

After sealing both sides - most likely with west system on the bottom and some finish, probably [url="http://www.waterlox.com"]waterlox marine[/url] on the top I'd glue it in place and at some sort of teak trim, cut to fit and screw that in.

Somebody back in 99 had done their cabin, I think they said their girlfriend gave it to him as a gift??? but since that time I've been collecting links on the web trying to figure out the best way to do it. Pulling ideas from all sorts of areas. Here are some of them:

http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/cabinsole/cabsol.htm
http://www.resourcesintl-wa.com/cabin.html
http://www.practical-sailor.com/newspics/charts/904teakcabinsole.pdf
http://www.practical-sailor.com/newspics/charts/867fancy.pdf
http://www.worldpanel.com/
http://www.hardwoodint.com/teakhollysole.html
http://www.woodworkingforwatercraft.com/cabinsole.html

I've even found some faux materials and at one point got a sample of a formica - esque substance sent from the UK. Still a pipedream, but maybe one day....

The rational side of me says (to myself) don't be a sucker, you (meaning me) own a small little slow As crap cruising sailboat; quit trying to put perfume on the pig.

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Charlie Vick
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Response Posted - 12/29/2004 :  10:51:49  Show Profile
Back in early fall 2003 I replaced the hideous carpet the PO had put down with a light colored burber. Spent $35 on a remnant which I can recarpet with twice. I take it out now in the summer months because of so many wet feet in the cabin and such and put it back in the winter to warm it up a bit. I figure I'll probably have a different boat by the time I get around to using the remaining carpet. Plus at that price I don't go ballistic if my son or slightly oiled crew spill anything on it.
It's not wood but it's much cheaper and easier to maintain plus it looks really good.

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