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ed_spengeman
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Initially Posted - 12/28/2004 : 15:38:31

I've been racing an 18' Interlake for about 12 years. Have the taste for a "slightly larger boat" and am just about ready to pop for a 25' Catalina-early 80's vintage. I'll be sailing on an inland lake and will haul to Erie or Michigan on occassion.

Looking at an 83, swing-keel with a tall rig. Comes with a roller trailer.

Any suggestions what I should keep my eyes open about. Need to add an extension for the tongue. Is that an easy fix? Jib is an original 150. It is hanked on and has a "special" furler with cans and wires wind??? Can't find any reference to this on the site. I'm looking for a furler that will let me keep the jib in place. Will this do it or do I have to spend big bucks.

A dealer said to change the centerboard wire every 4-5 years and not to worry about the pin. Is that good info. Can I do these fixes or is it big work.

This boat is from an individual and has been kept up. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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dave holtgrave
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Response Posted - 12/28/2004 : 16:09:54

ed
i have an 88 tall rig at carlyle in southern illinois.

i change my own cable and look at the turning ball when i do.
i put rigid foam on my trailer and put the boAt on so to lift the rear of the boat about 3-4 inches. piece of cake.
tongue extension.
i use three 1/4x12x3 inch steel plate fastened to the trailer.
on this i strap with 3-1/4x3x6inch steel plates, the 3x3x3/16 or 1/4 tube. all i do is open the bolts and slide the tube in or out.
i don't have a length ,but i'm sure there is one around you can copy.

to buy a furler most use cdi and i think it is a number 4. costs less than $500. you can add luff tape to the hank on 150 for less than $125.

let me know if you need anything else.
i'm out of office until monday after 5 today.

dave holtgrave
5722 sk/tr
hard and dry - carlyle lake in southern illinois

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/28/2004 : 16:12:00

The use of the term centerboard is a slight misnomer. Its more of a shoal or swing keel... At 1500 lbs you'll easily see the difference.

You can easily change this wire while out of the water. You can buy a kit containing all the replacement parts, (its more than a wire, there's a few other items.)

Depending on price I'd recommend an inspection. There should be at least one inspecting company on the associations links page.

Other items of note -

Check the compression post below the port setee. If there are any window leaks (and I'll bet there are) the boat, while on the hard might (depending on cradle, trailer or jack stands) pool water around that area causing a chance for rot to occur.

Have the appraiser or inspector check for moisture on the deck - specifically at the stanchions and around the anchor locker.

If the original "to hull" fittings are still in place with the original gate valves for the sink, head and other drains you'll want to replace those. It would be an intermediate project but can be done over about 5 to 10 days.

Check the rudder for moisture and delamination

I believe a tongue extension is only used temporarily while putting the boat in and taking it out. Shouldn't be that difficult. As for the furler, I don't know much about that.

I'm sure others will have their items..

dw

edited to correct a homonym error

Edited by - Champipple on 12/28/2004 16:13:50

Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 12/28/2004 : 16:19:53

Hi ed,

Welcome to our Catalina 25 owners' forum.

Regarding your questions, I suggest you start by searching the archives here for such topics as "swing keel cable", "swing keel pivot", "roller furler", "trailer tongue", etc. There's a lot of good info already here just waiting for you to read it.

Although your Interlake (nice boat, I had a Lightning) has a centerboard, we call the retractable foil under a Catalina 25 a swing keel, because it is ballast. (The Catalina 250 folks do call theirs "centerboards", but those don't weigh as much.)

-- Leon Sisson

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dave holtgrave
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Response Posted - 12/28/2004 : 16:52:11

leon
you messed up my post. i was about to list saying to ed that people in the midwest have nothing better to due now than post on the forum and up pops the man from florida.

what's the matter is it raining today?

all kidding aside. it's in the low 50's and in the next couple of days we could reach 65 degrees.

wow!!! i new once the days get longer the warmer it would get!

or, is it that i'm leaving for a cruise next week.

hope all is well where ever you are.

dave holtgrave
5722 sk/tr
hard and dry near carlyle lake in southern illinois.

don't mind me i'm getting board with the winter.

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Steve Shetter
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Response Posted - 12/28/2004 : 20:16:47

Ed,
I have an '81 swing keel and have trailered it acouple of times. I don't have a tongue extension, because the baot floats off the trailer before I get in too deep for the truck. I have a tandem axle, roller trailerand have not had a problem yet.

Good luck,

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 12/28/2004 : 22:29:09

dave holtgrave,

Ater seeing the close response times on the first few posts in this thread, I also thought about pointing out the speedy help available here this time of year.

Re: "what's the matter is it raining today? ... it's in the low 50's and in the next couple of days we could reach 65 degrees."

It's been cold and damp for almost a week! I don't think the temperature made it above 70*F for more than two days out of the past seven! Waaa!

On a brighter note, I recently put my C-25 is back in the water after a regular maintenance haulout, and today I had a neighbor help me step the mast. So when the weather does improve, I think I'll be ready!

I hope you have a great cruise!

-- Leon Sisson

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 12/28/2004 : 23:00:30

With my swinger/roller trailer I couldn't launch on any of the ramps here without getting the truck pretty well submerged in salt water (read destroyed). Even with the extention tongue the back wheels of the truck are just touching the water when I launch and retrieve.

Fitting an extension tongue to an EZ-Loader trailer is pretty trivial. A 12' piece of tubing, some galvanized pipe for spacers, all-thread, and a few pieces of flatbar are all that's needed. Ed, if you want some photos of it PM me.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 12/29/2004 : 00:27:03

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ed_spengeman
 ready to pop for a 25' Catalina-early 80's vintage.
Any suggestions what I should keep my eyes open about.
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My thoughts on what to shop for in a Catalina 25 are written down in a tech-tips article I wrote a while back, available at this URL:
http://home.comcast.net/~lgcharlot/pics/C25appraisal.txt

This article is offered for advice only, you should always have a certified marine surveyor go over a prospective boat before you commit to buying it. Good luck in your boat shopping!

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/29/2004 : 10:38:23

Ed, I put up extension photos as a separate topic so they would not slow the load of this thread. I hope you don't use dial-up.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/29/2004 : 11:00:32

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">

don't mind me i'm getting board with the winter.
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Where's arlen - I have a homophone/homonym alert

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ed_spengeman
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Response Posted - 12/29/2004 : 23:05:28

Really appreciate the rapid responses and good info. Took your suggestion and hooked up with a surveyor. Wish me luck.
Ed

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