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Capt. Kurt
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Initially Posted - 01/24/2005 :  18:27:10  Show Profile
What is the maximum number of passengers a C250WK can safely take on a day cruise for a few hours? I don't see this listed on any C250 specs. I'm assuming if the wind is light, you can take more, is this correct?

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 01/24/2005 :  23:08:53  Show Profile
Kurt
Length of hull x beam / 15 = maximun number of 150 lb passegers in calm conditions.
This question was on a sailing test I took 4 years ago.
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Ray Seitz
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Response Posted - 01/25/2005 :  07:05:49  Show Profile
Kurt without checking Paul, I think he is right, I used the formula and I came out with 14 people. I do not think the USCG regulates the number of people on a sailboat (because we are smarter than powerboaters), which is why we do not have max. persons stickers. At any rate 14 people on a 250 is too many people IMHO. I have had 7 people (three teenagers) all in the cockpit on a 10-15 knt. day and it was manageable.
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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 01/25/2005 :  11:56:59  Show Profile
This is not much different from calculating elevator capacity. If you go strictly by Paul's formula & can guarantee the weights are accurate, this works OK. For some reason putting 14 folks on a 250 brings visions of one of those little cars the circus clowns use.

However, if only using the calculated max weight as a limit I just can't imagine SEVEN 300# folks will fit very well. Getting more than 2 below would be "interesting" to watch.
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Ray Seitz
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Response Posted - 01/25/2005 :  13:08:19  Show Profile
Jeff if my memory serves me right that formula is actually the one the USCG used in the boater safety course I took a several years back. Here is a link that discusses loading in more detail.
http://www.uscgboating.org/safety/boatbuilder/safeloading/subc-1-183-31.htm
The formula may only work for boats 20' and less.

BTW my dad has been on my boat several times, he was around 340 lbs and stood 6'2", he and a 2 other people (not as large as he) fit below no complaints!
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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 01/25/2005 :  13:18:20  Show Profile
Ray,

I stand corrected. Sorry about that. No offense intended.

That's a heck of a website for the calculations.
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Capt. Kurt
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Response Posted - 01/25/2005 :  15:05:20  Show Profile
I didn't know I'd have to break out my calculator! I was thinking 7 or 8 would be reasonable, 5 in the cockpit, 2 or 3 down below. Glad to hear this has been done before, thanks!

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atgep
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Response Posted - 01/25/2005 :  16:03:15  Show Profile
It would be possible to have 15 WOMEN (like the Swedish bikini team) as they are Lighter and smaller "on average". My rule is no more than 3 of my buddies and as many girls as want to come!

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/25/2005 :  16:10:07  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by atgep</i>
<br />It would be possible to have 15 WOMEN (like the Swedish bikini team) as they are Lighter and smaller "on average". My rule is no more than 3 of my buddies and as many girls as want to come!

Tom.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

When I'm asked how many people can fit on my boat, I generally reply, "With or without clothes?"
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Response Posted - 01/25/2005 :  16:40:20  Show Profile
I remember talking to the US Coast Gaurd after the test and as I recall the reason for the formula for sailboats was they do not have a PLATE or TAG attached to the boat showing max load and max allowable people etc. Where as all power boats by law have to have this information on the boat.
The formula was just a guide line for max number of naked women allowed on board. The common sense part is I can't afford and/or store 13 life jackets.
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/25/2005 :  16:51:04  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by johnsonp</i>
<br />...The common sense part is I can't afford and/or store 13 life jackets.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I have a minimum of 15 life jackets onboard North Star. They were accumulated over the years as the kids were growing up and they each wanted to take a couple of friends with us sailing.
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frogger
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Response Posted - 01/27/2005 :  18:25:36  Show Profile
Just remember that you will be legally responsible for all those on board. How much liability do you really want to assume? How would you define a reasonable number of pasengers? For my boat, my magic number is 7, naked or not, fun factor figured in.
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