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Douglas
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Initially Posted - 03/26/2002 : 17:18:54

Well after the new through hull fittings were done I did a new barrier coat on the hull. Here are a few pictures of how it came out.<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2dd04b3127cce9d4cdfa8ce610000005410" border=0><img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2dd04b3127cce9d4cdf96ce5f0000004410" border=0><img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2dd04b3127cce9d4cdf974f6e0000004410" border=0><img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2dd04b3127cce9d4cdf94ce5d0000004410" border=0>The paint came out so nice its almost a shame to put a bottom paint on.

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Response Posted - 03/26/2002 : 17:40:33

Douglas...What "product" did you use, and was the application spray, roll or brush??

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 03/26/2002 : 18:49:13

Wow, I wish the bottom of my boat looked that good!

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Tony Dillon
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Response Posted - 03/26/2002 : 19:19:18

Are you sure that's not a picture of a new boat?<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Nice job Douglas.

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 03/26/2002 : 19:22:25

The epoxy paint is called Bio Guard 251. It is a solvent free two part epoxy with a two to one mix ratio. I applied it per directions with a 3/16" nap roller. The roller must be for epoxy products so none of the nap fuzz comes off and gets into the finish. The epoxy goes on very thick and does not sag. One coat will do in most all applications as it is 10 to 16 mills thick. I did double coat the keel due to the porosity of the fairing compound. I was painting at 55 to 60 deg. F.
If you look at my through hull post you can see I had removed all bottom paint prior to epoxy barrier coat application. Most systems for barrier coat use up to 25% of the solution as a solvent. No so with Bio Guard 251. There is also no blush to remove prior to any second coat. Check out www.epoxyproducts.com/barrier4u.html I ordered this product from the east coast and had it in 5 days. The company is full of information and help. Their site is loaded with information about epoxy and painting boats. Their prices are also a lot less than the junk sold at 3 times the cost. If you have any question as to how I preped the hull and did the work I will be glad to help.

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Response Posted - 03/26/2002 : 20:13:46

Nice job Douglass!

What was your total cost for the project?

Rick Heaverly

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 03/26/2002 : 22:58:39

Paint 200$ , tools for removing old paint including shop vac and industrial orbital sander 200$ suplies sanding discs rags thiner paint rollers ect. 100$ I think thats fair 500 total but the labor is intensive. I probably saved 1500 to 2000 dollars by doing all the work myself.

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Response Posted - 03/27/2002 : 09:11:51

Perfect example of taking extra time to do a thorough job will pay for itself many times over in the years to come. Great job Douglas. Make that appointment with the chiropractor yet?

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 03/27/2002 : 15:42:38

Steve. Yep I had some muscle aches but not to bad. I bought a garden cart with 4 wheels on it. I used it to lie on top of under the hull. It worked out good and saved my arms and sholders a lot of stain. I could push myself along as needed to sand another area. Very labor intensive job. Next time if there ever is one Ill hire a couple of high school kids.

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ltenny
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Response Posted - 03/27/2002 : 17:02:10

I was just wondering what people generally do about the spots on the hull that are covered by the pads of the stands? Do you move the stands a little and get those spots afterwards? Or just leave them unpainted?

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Lee

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 03/27/2002 : 17:20:39

I paint the barrier coat everywhere I can. Put on two coats of bottom paint then ask the yard to move the stands. Prep the areas left by where the stands use to be and paint them. I do all the other hull first so I dont have to move the stands more than once. 25$ for the yard to move them. I also pay 50 for the yard to lift the boat and re block under the keel so I can barrier coat and bottom coat it also.

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Response Posted - 03/27/2002 : 19:23:49

Hiring high school kids reminds me of the guy who hired graffiti artists. Instead of doing just the name - they painted graffiti on every square inch of the hull! <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 03/27/2002 : 21:22:00

Yeah, Thanks a lot for the info. I've been wanting to put a hard coat on my hull. I'll probably pull mine out of the water in mid-summer when it is so hot and little wind except during thunder storms here.

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Ben, FL s/v Chick-a-pea C250wk

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 03/27/2002 : 21:54:56

Sounds like a good name for a boat.(((Graffiti))) By the way I am using two coats of Interlux Bottomkote with cayene addative for spice.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/28/2002 : 08:47:15

Douglas,

You mention that it is a shame to put on a bottom coat...

Do you Trailer or Dock?

A vast many of the boats that just trailer don't put a bottom paint on...if you think about it, its not even needed in that instance...

dw

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 03/28/2002 : 14:17:38

Hi Duane: I wish I did have a trailer but being a fin keel it would be hard and I probably would not sail as often. I keep Wind Lass in a slip all year round. She will be located at Johnny's Dock in Tacoma. I have a realy nice slip right next to the resturaunt/ lounge. 30' pie shaped slip with room for my dinghy. I find keeping the fin keel in the water makes it soooo easy to just go down to the boat and shove off. Sometimes I even go just for a few hours in the AM before work. I work 2nd shift so I can play while most everyone else is working.

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Response Posted - 03/28/2002 : 14:19:39

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I find keeping the fin keel in the water makes it soooo easy to just go down to the boat and shove off. Sometimes I even go just for a few hours in the AM before work.
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I agree...we keep ours docked at Whiskey Island Marina in Cleveland..

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jm
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Response Posted - 03/28/2002 : 15:28:21

Contrary to traditional photo shoots, its good to see your Catalina keel isn't 'smiling'.. Nice job on the barrier coat - seems a shame to have to cover it in anti-fouling paint, or was that included in the picture ?

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 03/29/2002 : 17:13:27

Last of the bottom coat is on. Interlux BottomKote 2 coats applied. Last thing to do now is polish the hull sides with 3M Fiberglass polish/restorer. See you all on the water. <img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2dd08b3127cce9d701d1fe8f90000004410" border=0><img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2dd08b3127cce9d701d1be8fd0000004410" border=0><img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2dd08b3127cce9d701d07e8e10000004410" border=0>

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