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dlucier
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Initially Posted - 03/28/2002 :  12:28:16  Show Profile
I just purchased a used cruising spinnaker and chute scoop, and now I'm gathering items(line, blocks,...etc) that I will need to fly it. A few questions I have are,

1) What other options are there, instead of a crane, to properly attached the spinnaker halyard to the masthead? I would like to have a proper masthead crane, but I have not found a supplier. Catalina Direct only has cranes for 27's and 30's and is developing one for the 22's, but they have no plans as of yet to develop one for the 25's.

2) Will having just a free turning block attached to the front of the masthead for the spinnaker halyard be adequate enough or does the block need to be further out?

3) How do I route the spinnaker halyard down the mast(I have external halyards) so it does not interfere with my Harken roller furling gear/sail?

4) What is used as an attachment point for the tack line?

5) Does the Chute Scoop require a block or does it get pushed up by the spinnaker when it billows open and gets hauled down by another line?

6) When the spinnaker halyard is not in use, do you secure it to the pulpit so the genoa doesn't get fouled in it?

Any and all opinions are appreciated. Thanks.

Don Lucier, Northstar
C25 SR/FK

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/28/2002 :  14:16:44  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
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1) What other options are there, instead of a crane, to properly attached the spinnaker halyard to the masthead? I would like to have a proper masthead crane, but I have not found a supplier. Catalina Direct only has cranes for 27's and 30's and is developing one for the 22's, but they have no plans as of yet to develop one for the 25's. </i>
<font color=red><b>I am not sure how your roller furler comes into play, but, you can just attach a block to the forward clevis pin on the masthead. I can't picture it exactly, but the forstay should be going to the inner of the two</font id=red></b>
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2) Will having just a free turning block attached to the front of the masthead for the spinnaker halyard be adequate enough or does the block need to be further out?</i>
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This should be adequate enough. If you look at my signature photo below, we have a kite flying from the masthead block similar to that of a cruising kite. When examining the phote keep in mind two things, 1. its really a racing spinaker and 2 its made for a J24 so its a bit smaller and we fly it six inches to a foot from the top of the mast.</font id=red></b>
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3) How do I route the spinnaker halyard down the mast(I have external halyards) so it does not interfere with my Harken roller furling gear/sail?[/]
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We don't have our spin halyard internal, Putting an exit block that close to the masthead doesn't seem like the best place to cut into the mast?...If you did do this however, you would want to use an exit block on both ends, not just an exit plate.</font id=red></b>
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4) What is used as an attachment point for the tack line?</i>
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We used a rope coming from a hole in the stem fitting, there are two holes, the other one has our shackle for the jib.</font id=red></b>

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5) Does the Chute Scoop require a block or does it get pushed up by the spinnaker when it billows open and gets hauled down by another line?</i>
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On boats I have sailed with a scoop we I do believe there was some sort of a block. That boat was a 40 morgan classic though and the sail was huge. So one with more experience in this realm would have to help you on this one</b></font id=red>

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6) When the spinnaker halyard is not in use, do you secure it to the pulpit so the genoa doesn't get fouled in it?</i>
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It shouldn't be a problem as long as you cleat it straight down to the mast, or to the pulpit.</font id=red></b>

dw



Duane Wolff
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Edited by - Duane Wolff on 03/28/2002 14:18:01

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albert
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Response Posted - 03/29/2002 :  02:40:58  Show Profile  Visit albert's Homepage
I just got the latest Sail Warehouse catalog. For $20 they sell a masthead crane for 25' sailboats.

http://www.thesailwarehouse.com


Albert Iturrey
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wupdike
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Response Posted - 03/31/2002 :  13:31:19  Show Profile
I just put on a cruising spinnaker on my C25 last year.

1&2. I agree with previous answer. Block on forward pin at masthead is fine.
3. The new halyard will naturally fall down the front of the mast. I suggest you mount a cleat on the front of the mast to secure the spinnaker halyard, assuming you don't have gear for a whisker pole. My other halyards are internal so I mounted the cleat on the starboard side above the reefing cleat. Actually, I mounted it abour 4-5' above the deck. Shoulder height for me. Just drill the appropriate sized hole for the screws and tap the holes. Fortunately, I had the drill and tap. This is not difficult to do.
4. Tack line. I did as Duane indicated. However, the ticket seems to be a rig called "The Tacker. Check out http://www.atninc.com/tacker.html. A bit pricy so it's on my Christmas list for next year.
5. No block for scoop. It should be fully rigged internally. I just tie the scoop line off on the halyard cleat when sail is flying just to keep it from flying off with the wind.
6. tie off on cleat installed.

GrayCruiser

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